Jeremiah wrote:> More information on how you are installing debian, which version of > debian, what you are going to use it for (i.e. home machine, web server, > etc.) would be helpful.I downloaded the file: debian-31r1a-i386-netinstall from the debian site. I think this is version 3.1 revision 1 I have been running a linux system for some time, but I have always had help in the installation and I still need it. I am running a server for a non-profit providning services to persons with disabilities. The current system is still running: www.enabling.org and it provides free web hosting, mailboxes, and mailman lists for non-commercial purposes. When that system was installed for me, exim was also installed and I assume I need to continue this for mail and mailman services.> > exim4 is an MTA, a mail transferring tool. Is this what you want? These > tools are rather more complex than your standard web server and can open > you up to some rather serious issues, like turning your home machine > into a spam server, if you are not careful.I can see that right now when I look at the exim logs. Spammers are trying to use me and are rejected because the server is set not to relay. When I get the system functional I would appreciate direction on the docs to help me avoid a spammer.> What were you using when you installed exim4? Where you using apt-get?I used the command: apt-get install exim4. I got the files with no problem but the installation failed with the message: E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs Let me know if you need any other info. Bob
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 04:06:15PM +0000, drz@speakeasy.net wrote:> Let me know if you need any other info.You need to be subscribed to post. I am not going to manually approve any more articles today. Please subscribe. Greetings Marc
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 16:06 +0000, drz@speakeasy.net wrote:> Jeremiah wrote: > > > More information on how you are installing debian, which version of > > debian, what you are going to use it for (i.e. home machine, web server, > > etc.) would be helpful. > > I downloaded the file: debian-31r1a-i386-netinstall from the debian site. > I think this is version 3.1 revision 1So you are using Sarge. (Many debian people refer to the distribution by their code names like Woody, Sarge and Etch. More info here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian> I have been running a linux system for some time, but I have always > had help in the installation and I still need it. > I am running a server for a non-profit providning services to persons with disabilities. > The current system is still running: www.enabling.org and it provides free web hosting, mailboxes, > and mailman lists for non-commercial purposes. When that system was installed for me, > exim was also installed and I assume I need to continue this for mail and mailman services.You are right. You need to have an MTA (Mail Transfer Agent) to continue to send and receive mail at the host enabling.org. You may want to check all your processes just to make sure that exim is in fact the tool running your mail server.> > > > exim4 is an MTA, a mail transferring tool. Is this what you want? These > > tools are rather more complex than your standard web server and can open > > you up to some rather serious issues, like turning your home machine > > into a spam server, if you are not careful. > > I can see that right now when I look at the exim logs. Spammers are trying to use me and > are rejected because the server is set not to relay.This is good news, you are probably not running an open relay then. Open relays get you blacklisted and your users can no longer send mail. This happens when you run an open relay and spammers find out and start using it. Keep this in your mind as you administer your machine, it is something you really want to avoid.> When I get the system functional I would appreciate direction on the docs to help me avoid a spammer. >There is some good news and some bad news here. The bad news; the documentation is huge. The good news; it is really good. Read the specification file, it is long but good. Mine is located /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt but yours may be somewhere else. There is naturally a good deal of documentation on the web as well.> > What were you using when you installed exim4? Where you using apt-get? > > I used the command: apt-get install exim4. I got the files with no problem > but the installation failed with the message: > > E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential > package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, > but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. > E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogsDidn''t you say you already had exim installed? Check to make sure, issue this command on the command line; $ ps auxww | grep exim And post the results. Jeremiah
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 16:06 +0000, drz@speakeasy.net wrote:> Jeremiah wrote: > > > More information on how you are installing debian, which version of > > debian, what you are going to use it for (i.e. home machine, web server, > > etc.) would be helpful. > > I downloaded the file: debian-31r1a-i386-netinstall from the debian site. > I think this is version 3.1 revision 1 > > I have been running a linux system for some time, but I have always had help in the installation and I still need it. I am running a server for a non-profit providning services to persons with disabilities. The current system is still running: www.enabling.org and it provides free web hosting, mailboxes, and mailman lists for non-commercial purposes. When that system was installed for me, exim was also installed and I assume I need to continue this for mail and mailman services.It sounds as if your site may have basically been set up for you, and now you are trying to do a major version upgrade. If so, you probably need to get more familiar with running a mail server, web server, list server, etc, as well as the installation procedures. Or you need to get someone else to handle it. I don''t want to discourage you, but you may be getting into a bigger project than you anticipated (aren''t they all?). As for exim, I think using Debian packages in general, and the exim package in particular, is substantially easier than trying to build your own stuff. People on this list are pretty helpful, if sometimes a bit short with those who haven''t read the fine docs/manual. It''s always good to check /usr/share/doc/xxx/Readme.Debian where xxx is a package name. For xxx = exim4-base, or any of the exim4 packages, I think that''s a pretty good place to start. But if you aren''t familiar with mail servers, you might want to do some background reading first. I wasn''t, and found the exim book by Philip Hazel quite helpful. The first few chapters (at least in the old edition I have) give you the basics of how internet mail works and what MTA''s (Mail Transfer Agents, of which exim is one) do. But I''m really speculating about your knowledge level.