Is there any reason why the notification: "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal." should appear in ssh even when quiet mode is enabled? Looking at the ssh.c source the log_init is called just after this notification. Why shouldn't this be the other way around? I tested this with openssh-3.6.1p2 but it seems to be this way still in the latest snapshot. regards, Olli-Pekka Lehto