I just went to grab p2 to upgrade and couldn't find it from <http://www.openssh.com>. The OpenBSD/OpenSSH directory is empty on all of the OpenBSD mirrors I looked at, including ftp.openbsd.org. I had to follow the links from mindrot.org to find the old pages. <http://violet.ibs.com.au/openssh/files/> does point to usable locations for the portable version. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. <URL:http://jhcloos.com/public_key> 1024D/ED7DAEA6 <cloos at jhcloos.com> E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Is this post worth two cents? Then goto <http://2cw.org/23>!