bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2005-Jul-03  15:33 UTC
[Bug 1060] ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user groups
http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060
           Summary: ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user
                    groups
           Product: Portable OpenSSH
           Version: 4.1p1
          Platform: Other
               URL: http://bugs.debian.org/314347
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: ssh
        AssignedTo: bitbucket at mindrot.org
        ReportedBy: cjwatson at debian.org
On systems (such as Debian) that default to per-user groups and 'umask
002', the
new ~/.ssh/config permissions check is too strict. It should permit
group-writability provided that the group in question contains at most the
file's owner, so that one can have a mode 0664 ~/.ssh/config owned by user
cjwatson and group cjwatson.
I'll attach a patch for this in a moment. It would also be useful for this
to be
permitted under StrictGroups, although I haven't implemented that. Thanks.
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bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2005-Jul-03  15:35 UTC
[Bug 1060] ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user groups
http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 ------- Additional Comments From cjwatson at debian.org 2005-07-04 01:35 ------- Created an attachment (id=935) --> (http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/attachment.cgi?id=935&action=view) allow group-writable ~/.ssh/config under certain conditions ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2005-Jul-03  23:51 UTC
[Bug 1060] ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user groups
http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 ------- Additional Comments From djm at mindrot.org 2005-07-04 09:51 ------- I don't like these complex heuristics, especially since they depend on properties of the user and group name. It looks like it would also break on users who are directly assigned to another user's group in /etc/passwd. Why can't you just warn your users? (suggestion 5 in the Debian bug). The client config file is security-critical (malicious modification can lead to account compromise), so requiring users to pay attention is not a bad thing. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2005-Jul-04  00:23 UTC
[Bug 1060] ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user groups
http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 ------- Additional Comments From cjwatson at debian.org 2005-07-04 10:23 ------- (In reply to comment #2)> I don't like these complex heuristics, especially since they depend on > properties of the user and group name.The only reason the user name is used is because struct group only lets you inspect group membership by means of the user name.> It looks like it would also break on users who are directly assigned to > another user's group in /etc/passwd.Hmm, there is probably an issue if that other user was not explicitly listed in his/her primary group in /etc/group, yes. I'll investigate that.> Why can't you just warn your users? (suggestion 5 in the Debian bug).The test is wrong for us and causes ssh not to work *by default* as soon as you create a client config file, unless you take measures which aren't clearly documented in the error message and ought to be unnecessary in any case. I do not believe that giving up and merely documenting the problem is a valid response from me to this bug report. Suggestion 5 is about trawling through users' home directories on package installation, which is entirely unacceptable and a cure worse than the disease. Sorry. Thanks for your response. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.
bugzilla-daemon at mindrot.org
2005-Jul-04  00:50 UTC
[Bug 1060] ~/.ssh/config check too strict on systems with per-user groups
http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 ------- Additional Comments From djm at mindrot.org 2005-07-04 10:50 ------- (In reply to comment #3)> (In reply to comment #2) > > I don't like these complex heuristics, especially since they depend on > > properties of the user and group name. > > The only reason the user name is used is because struct group only lets you > inspect group membership by means of the user name.No, I was referring to: + else if (gr->gr_mem[0]) { + if (strcmp(pw->pw_name, gr->gr_mem[0]) || + gr->gr_mem[1]) where you make decisions on the group name being the same as the user name.> > Why can't you just warn your users? (suggestion 5 in the Debian bug). > > The test is wrong for us and causes ssh not to work *by default* as soon > as you create a client config file, unless you take measures which aren't > clearly documented in the error message"Bad owner or permissions on /home/djm/.ssh/config" is pretty clear. Not many error messages on Unix include detailed remedial instructions (I can't think of one off the top of my head). The ssh(1) manpage makes it quite clear what those permission needs to be.> and ought to be unnecessary in any case. I do > not believe that giving up and merely documenting the problem is a valid > response from me to this bug report.I wouldn't characterise warning your users of a potentially dangerous misconfiguration of their software as "giving up"; it is a perfectly appropriate response.> Suggestion 5 is about trawling through users' home directories on packageoops, I meant suggestion 6. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.