xen discuss - Feb 2008 - xVM released ? Looking for info about Xen of Solaris.

Hi, 
I''m gathering information about Virtualization products, but I
can''t find where to get price and binaries for the Xen implementation
of sun.

I found this : 
http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvm/index.jsp
and this 
http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvmopscenter/index.jsp

I thought I could download a free version of solaris with the hypervisor + specs
+ documentation.

Thanks for any help
Regards
ML
 
 
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> Hi, 
> I''m gathering information about Virtualization
> products, but I can''t find where to get price and
> binaries for the Xen implementation of sun.
> 
> I found this : 
> http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvm/index.jsp
> and this 
> http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvmopscenter/inde
> x.jsp
> 
> I thought I could download a free version of solaris
> with the hypervisor + specs + documentation.
You can download free version of solaris. It''s for sure:-
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/
> 
> Thanks for any help
> Regards
> ML
 
 
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Thanks for the link.
But what is the difference between opensolaris and solaris 10 ?

Who support opensolaris ?

Does Xen included in opensolaris ? Solaris 10 ?
Thanks
ML
 
 
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MD wrote:
> Hi, 
> I''m gathering information about Virtualization products, but I
can''t find where to get price and binaries for the Xen implementation
of sun.
>
> I found this : 
> http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvm/index.jsp
> and this 
> http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvmopscenter/index.jsp
>
> I thought I could download a free version of solaris with the hypervisor +
specs + documentation.
>
> Thanks for any help
> Regards
> ML
>  
>  
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>   
Yes, you can get xVM for free.  xVM Ops is not currently available.  
OpenSolaris Developer Edition (SXDE) released quarterly has available 
support from Sun near or identical to regular Solaris 10, but a new SXDE 
with xVM bits has not been pushed out yet.  OpenSolaris Community 
Edition (SXCE) is supported by the community, but has many Sun employees 
to back it.  Solaris 10 does not have xVM, nor will it have it in any 
update for the coming year or longer.  It won''t be until Solaris 11 (Or
whatever Sun wants to call it) that xVM and the many enhancements to 
desktop and notebook experience will be integrated into the mainline 
off-the-shelf distribution.  (Maintainence vs. Feature streams for 
former SGI customers is the lingo)

James

On Feb 5, 2008 12:03 PM, James Cornell <sparcdr@sparcdr.com>
wrote:
>
> MD wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I''m gathering information about Virtualization products, but
I can''t find where to get price and binaries for the Xen implementation
of sun.
> >
> > I found this :
> > http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvm/index.jsp
> > and this
> > http://www.sun.com/software/products/xvmopscenter/index.jsp
> >
> > I thought I could download a free version of solaris with the
hypervisor + specs + documentation.
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> > Regards
> > ML
> >
> >
> > This message posted from opensolaris.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > xen-discuss mailing list
> > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org
> >
> Yes, you can get xVM for free.  xVM Ops is not currently available.
> OpenSolaris Developer Edition (SXDE) released quarterly has available
> support from Sun near or identical to regular Solaris 10, but a new SXDE
> with xVM bits has not been pushed out yet.  OpenSolaris Community
> Edition (SXCE) is supported by the community, but has many Sun employees
> to back it.  Solaris 10 does not have xVM, nor will it have it in any
> update for the coming year or longer.  It won''t be until Solaris
11 (Or
> whatever Sun wants to call it) that xVM and the many enhancements to
> desktop and notebook experience will be integrated into the mainline
> off-the-shelf distribution.  (Maintainence vs. Feature streams for
> former SGI customers is the lingo)
I was under the impression that xVM was going to be part of Solaris 10
update 5. Can anyone from the Xen team comment?

Thanks,
- Ryan
-- 
UNIX Administrator
http://prefetch.net

Matty wrote:
> I was under the impression that xVM was going to be part of Solaris 10
> update 5. Can anyone from the Xen team comment?
Remember, there''s two parts to xVM: dom0+hypervisor, and (xVM-aware 
extension to) domU.

AFAIK (and I haven''t paid much attention to S10-related issues), dom0
will
not be backported to any S10 update. I''m not privy to the current plans
wrt. domU in upcoming S10 updates, so I''ll leave that comment to
others.

HTH
Michael
-- 
Michael Schuster
Recursion, n.: see ''Recursion''

Thanks guy.
So, 
- Solaris 10 does not implement Xen. Perhaps in Solaris 11.
- Open Solaris does not implement Xen, but one can download xVM and install it
on OpenSolaris.
- OpenSolaris is supported by the OpenSolaris community.
And I read that is not usuable yet.
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/goals-of-the-project/
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/docs/windowsguest/;jsessionid=E336FB59B23DB2A7B6AB1447029B600D
Regards
ML
 
 
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I believe starting with SNV75A (76,78,81) SXCE provide access to
"Solaris xVM "just as option of Grub Menu after SXCE install is done.
 
 
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MD wrote:
> Thanks guy.
> So, 
> - Solaris 10 does not implement Xen. 
Correct.

It is likely PV drivers will be available
in an S10 update in the future.


> Perhaps in Solaris 11.
It is already in the next version of Solaris.
But this version has not been released yet.
The next version of Solaris will be built
from the code in OpenSolaris.


> - Open Solaris does not implement Xen, but one can download xVM and install
it on OpenSolaris.
Xen support is in OpenSolaris today. XVM is an
umbrella name which covers a bunch of stuff. Some of
it is available today in OpenSolaris, some of it
is still in development, and some off it hasn''t
even been started yet. There are roadmaps, features
which will phased in over months, years, etc.

If you are using OpenSolaris, you will see this at
much finer resolution as features are phased in.
OpenSolaris is a day-to-day, build-to-build snapshot
of an operating system in development.


> - OpenSolaris is supported by the OpenSolaris community.
I am not sure what the official support model is
for customers who want to pay for support. If you
are interested in that, you should ask a Sun sales
representative.

The OpenSolaris community is a good place for individuals
to ask questions and get help.


> And I read that is not usuable yet.
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/goals-of-the-project/
>
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/docs/windowsguest/;jsessionid=E336FB59B23DB2A7B6AB1447029B600D
Sure it''s usable. I use it every day. Of course, it
depends on what you want to use it for.





MRJ

Boris Derzhavets wrote:
> I believe starting with SNV75A (76,78,81) SXCE provide access to
> "Solaris xVM "just as option of Grub Menu after SXCE install is
done.
>  
>  
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That''s correct, just got a clean install of SXCE B78 and
there''s a boot
option.  :-)

James

All,
thanks a lot.
Best regards
ML
 
 
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