Hi. Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I was thinking maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) Thanks, --Robs
Hi, The original MacOS install DVD image could not be installed on a ordinary PC. And it violates the Apple EULA agreement to install MacOS on a non-Apple hardware. Regards, Robert Sohigian wrote:> Hi. > > Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? > > I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I was thinking > maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) > > > Thanks, > > --Robs > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >
Apple has recently changed their Leopard Server EULA to allow virtualization and VMware will release a version that support it. On 20/11/2007, at 8:10 AM, Yong Sun wrote:> Hi, > > The original MacOS install DVD image could not be installed on a > ordinary PC. And it violates the Apple EULA agreement to install MacOS > on a non-Apple hardware. > > Regards, > > Robert Sohigian wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? >> >> I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I >> was thinking >> maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> --Robs >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-discuss mailing list >> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org
Thanks for the pointer. I just did a quick google and found: <snip> However, with Leopard Server, we see this in the EULA: This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Mac OS X Server software (the "Mac OS X Server Software") on a single Apple-labeled computer. You may also install and use other copies of Mac OS X Server Software on the same Apple-labeled computer, provided that you acquire an individual and valid license from Apple for each of these other copies of Mac OS X Server Software. That section clears the way to virtualize Mac OS X 10.5 Server on Apple hardware. <snip> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/3709561 Good info for other who are interested, but I''m still out of luck since I wanted to run this on my x86 box. Regards, --Robs K wrote on 11/27/07 18:04:> Apple has recently changed their Leopard Server EULA to allow > virtualization and VMware will release a version that support it. > > On 20/11/2007, at 8:10 AM, Yong Sun wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The original MacOS install DVD image could not be installed on a >> ordinary PC. And it violates the Apple EULA agreement to install MacOS >> on a non-Apple hardware. >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert Sohigian wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? >>> >>> I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I >>> was thinking >>> maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> --Robs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-discuss mailing list >>> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-discuss mailing list >> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >
Highly doubt that, Mac OS X requires EFI, and VMware would need an exact version of Apple''s EFI implementation, if they don''t use EFI it''d make it easy to put on non-Apple machines. You''re either lying or misinformed, they will never allow it unless it''s under VMware Fusion and only on Mac OS X. James On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:04 AM, K wrote:> Apple has recently changed their Leopard Server EULA to allow > virtualization and VMware will release a version that support it. > > On 20/11/2007, at 8:10 AM, Yong Sun wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The original MacOS install DVD image could not be installed on a >> ordinary PC. And it violates the Apple EULA agreement to install >> MacOS >> on a non-Apple hardware. >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert Sohigian wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? >>> >>> I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I >>> was thinking >>> maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> --Robs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-discuss mailing list >>> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xen-discuss mailing list >> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org > > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org
They are a hardware company, they keep their company going by selling hardware to pay for the software. It''s specific to XServes running Leopard Server and VMware Server (Unreleased_ and does not apply to clients, and won''t given the cheap cost of Mac OS X client. James On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:11 AM, Robert Sohigian wrote:> Thanks for the pointer. > > I just did a quick google and found: > > <snip> > However, with Leopard Server, we see this in the EULA: > > This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Mac OS X > Server > software (the "Mac OS X Server Software") on a single Apple-labeled > computer. > You may also install and use other copies of Mac OS X Server > Software on the > same Apple-labeled computer, provided that you acquire an individual > and valid > license from Apple for each of these other copies of Mac OS X Server > Software. > > That section clears the way to virtualize Mac OS X 10.5 Server on > Apple hardware. > <snip> > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/3709561 > > > Good info for other who are interested, but I''m still out of luck > since I wanted > to run this on my x86 box. > > > Regards, > > --Robs > > > K wrote on 11/27/07 18:04: >> Apple has recently changed their Leopard Server EULA to allow >> virtualization and VMware will release a version that support it. >> >> On 20/11/2007, at 8:10 AM, Yong Sun wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The original MacOS install DVD image could not be installed on a >>> ordinary PC. And it violates the Apple EULA agreement to install >>> MacOS >>> on a non-Apple hardware. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Robert Sohigian wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> Has anyone played around with getting MacOS running in xVM? >>>> >>>> I''ve got the install disks (and a MacBookPro) that I could use. (I >>>> was thinking >>>> maybe of doing a dd of the hard disk?) >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> --Robs >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> xen-discuss mailing list >>>> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xen-discuss mailing list >>> xen-discuss@opensolaris.org >> > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Good info for other who are interested, but I''m still out of luck since I wanted > to run this on my x86 box >I know its not the same thing, but you *can* virtualize Darwin on any box http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) Cheers, Kent
Currently not fully updated unfortunately. It''s actually quite rewarding despite not having Aqua or Apple frameworks, at least if you''re not network oriented command-line applications and kernel hacking. Apple has already released the Leopard XNU sources at http://www.opensource.apple.com/ under the APSL 2.0 (OSI approved) if anyone is interested. I haven''t seen an ISO of Darwin 9 yet, but expect it in about one more month, it usually takes a while between updates to get newly pressed ISO''s out for just Darwin itself, if Tiger as an indication. One unfortunate sideaffect of Darwin is that it''s now UNIX certified, and this is causing the delay, mostly legal issues one would assume, and I wouldn''t expect Apple to be able to get every single source file, even for plain old Darwin out, some will be encumbered, as with the OpenSolaris situation. If you''re used to FreeBSD, it''s a cakewalk, the advantage being the interesting Mach kernel, and IMHO slight performance gains for desktop usage versus monolithic with the hybrid architecture. Although let''s not get into a classic (and useless) Linus versus Tanenbaum discussion. Personally I find it OK with X11, and there''s Gentoo Portage and MacPorts for getting miscellaneous packages onto the system. I have yet to see anyone successfully boot the current Darwin (10.4/8) on xVM, if anyone has tons of time to waste and likes wasting CPU cycles, I''d like to hear from your experiences. Have a nice day. James On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Kent Watsen wrote:> >> Good info for other who are interested, but I''m still out of luck >> since I wanted >> to run this on my x86 box >> > I know its not the same thing, but you *can* virtualize Darwin on > any box > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) > > Cheers, > Kent > > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > xen-discuss@opensolaris.org