On 10/21/07, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:> But I agree that we need to get skeleton support into mainstream > encoders, not just the decoders.That's what I meant, especially now that Skeleton is a (SHOULD) requirement for video/ogg and audio/ogg. Lots of encoders will need to change. ffmpeg2theora, flac (the application), VLC... And CMML... I believe I have no tool to create an a/v file with captioning, which means I cannot create a testcase to go around testing in, for instance, the XO laptop. And I just noticed that CMML isn't even listed on //xiph.org while the... Writ is. A few days ago, I asked Monty if I could do an update to the frontpage, which he allowed. I'll ask if I can extend that to include CMML and OggPCM. -Ivo
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 03:13:24AM +0100, Ivo Emanuel Gon?alves wrote:> That's what I meant, especially now that Skeleton is a (SHOULD) > requirement for video/ogg and audio/ogg. Lots of encoders will need > to change. ffmpeg2theora, flac (the application), VLC...ffmpeg2theora has had support for skeleton for over a year, as a simple google search shows. http://www.google.ca/search?q=skeleton+ffmpeg2theora Might I humbly suggest your efforts would be more effective if you backed them up with more prior research? -r
> And I just noticed that CMML isn't even listed on //xiph.org while > the... Writ is. A few days ago, I asked Monty if I could do an update > to the frontpage, which he allowed. I'll ask if I can extend that to > include CMML and OggPCM.While you're at it (unless somebody here disagrees), we might as well remove links to vapourware projects IceShare and Ogg Metadata from the front page. Both are from "a person who really didn't know what they were doing and wouldn't listen to or accept input from anyone else", and I wouldn't expect any of them to move forward now. In addition to CMML, there's also a Skeleton link that would be useful. Cheers, Jean-Marc
On 10/21/07, Ralph Giles <giles@xiph.org> wrote:> ffmpeg2theora has had support for skeleton for over a year, as a simple > google search shows.Sorry. However, according to the ticket (939), which is the first result to show up, the Skeleton support is disabled by default and requires the use of a command flag. In light of recent events, it is perhaps a better idea to switch that and have Skeleton by default and disable it by using a command flag. Jolly good the main Theora encoder is up to spec, though. -Ivo