On 16 Sep 2007 at 22:10, Ralph Giles wrote:> These applications are complementary. Many music players do have their > own database, and it makes sense to keep metadata there, if only as a > cache. It is also to have metadata in the file itself, so that when it > is moved, copied, posted for download by others, or just indexed by > another music player instance it is easily available.Absolutely. I was trying to say that *in those scenarios* where complex metadata *needs* to be recorded, storing this data separate from the audio files has numerous benefits: improved editibility; less redundancy; and better expression of the relationships amoung release, discs, and tracks. Even today, I use my own "metadata format" -- essentially a superset of vorbis comments. There is one file per release, even with a multi-disc release. As a final part of the ripping process, I apply this metadata to the FLAC or Vorbis files. -- -:-:- David K. Gasaway -:-:- Email: dave@gasaway.org -:-:- Web : dave.gasaway.org
Daniel Aleksandersen
2007-Sep-17 05:42 UTC
[ogg-dev] The use for an XML based metadata format
On Monday 17. September 2007 07:47:19 David K. Gasaway wrote:> Even today, I use my own "metadata format" -- essentially a superset of > vorbis comments. There is one file per release, even with a multi-disc > release. As a final part of the ripping process, I apply this metadata > to the FLAC or Vorbis files.Why don't you share your own metadata format as proposals on the wiki? http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisComments -- Daniel Aleksandersen
Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:> On Monday 17. September 2007 07:47:19 David K. Gasaway wrote: >> Even today, I use my own "metadata format" -- essentially a superset of >> vorbis comments. There is one file per release, even with a multi-disc >> release. As a final part of the ripping process, I apply this metadata >> to the FLAC or Vorbis files. > > Why don't you share your own metadata format as proposals on the wiki? > http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisCommentsI put it in quotes for a reason. :) I'm hesitant to call it another metadata format, because it's little more than vorbis comments extended to apply a tag to an entire release or a selection of tracks. It's all distilled down to ordinary vorbis comments in the end. It's really not an alternative to vorbis comments or your proposal. If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to discuss it, but I was merely trying to illustrate my point re: storing metadata separately from the audio files. -- -:-:- David K. Gasaway -:-:- Email: dave@gasaway.org -:-:- Web : dave.gasaway.org