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Jim Klimov

2021-Apr-20 08:56 UTC

[Nut-upsuser] Powercool UPS compatibility

Hi all,

In the comments for https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/pull/638/ adding
support for "hunnox" subdriver I saw somebody report that the branch
also
supported their Powercool branded device. I am brushing that submission
into shape to merge it, and for that matter also plan to merge the
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/pull/1008 adding an "snr"
subdriver.

So hopefully a build of NUT from the master branch after these merges would
let your deployment see your UPS better. That said, you may have to poke
the unRAID plugin maintainer to update their package.

Jim

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 11:02 AM James Billinge <jammybisme at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> hi Jim,
>
> please see -
> https://forums.unraid.net/topic/60217-plugin-nut-v2-network-ups-tools
> [Plugin] NUT v2 - Network UPS Tools - Plugin Support - Unraid
>
<https://forums.unraid.net/topic/60217-plugin-nut-v2-network-ups-tools>
> On 3/24/2018 at 12:02 PM, huffsper said: Did you find anything weird
> looking at the log? I noticed in my logs that unBALANCE is using rm -rf to
> delete files, wouldnt using rsyncs --remove-source-files be better? I took
> a look and didnt find anything unusual. There were a couple of instances
> where...
> forums.unraid.net
>
> this is the app i am using to use NUT.
>
> what you say about ups.conf is what i have entered and it fails to start
> NUT.
>
> i've PM'ed dmacias on the unraid forums for advice but no response
since
> the weekend when i sent it and the forum thread isn't actively
responded to
> either.
>
> really need dmacias to respond to enable guidance.
>
> nut-scanner works, it picks up this:
>
> Scanning for UPS...
>
> [nutdev1]
> driver = "nutdrv_qx"
> port = "auto"
> vendorid = "0001"
> productid = "0000"
> product = "MEC0003"
> bus = "002"
>
>
> but nutdrv_qx isn't a driver option so i pick "custom" and
enter it in, it
> then appears in UPS.conf and i can start/run NUT but i do not get any
> readings and it says ONLINE. but if i cut the power, it doesn't change
> status or act on it.
>
>
> since nutdrv_atcl_usb doesn't work, i feel its because its missing. if
i
> could know how to put that driver in, it would be interesting to see what
> NUT did if it saw it.
>
>
> i will post on the unraid forum again.
>
> thanks for the help Jim. hopefully a solution will be found!
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Klimov <jimklimov at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 08 April 2021 09:38
> *To:* James Billinge <jammybisme at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net <
> nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Powercool UPS compatibility
>
> I took a look at https://github.com/dmacias72/NUT-unRAID/ plugin source
> (not sure it is the one you have, just the first recent plugin from
> googling).
>
> Unfortunately it does not seem to reference actual NUT source well, nor a
> plugin version, but just hoards several timestamped tarballs with binaries.
> By commit comments it seems that at least at some point they used the
> "libusb-0.1+1.0" branch which is one of our attempts to handle
modern
> libusb-1 in NUT (note none of the attempts yet were merged to master or
> released "officially", but we are on it).
>
> I can't quickly say if latest plugin builds are based on that too, or
if
> you may have a mismatch with drivers last built for libusb-0.1 trying to
> use libusb-1.0 on the server. APIs differ so such mismatch might cause
> crashes, or just fail to start if dynamic linking detects it.
>
> As for ups.conf, I think you should try a minimal config like:
>
> [powercool]
> driver=nutdrv_atcl_usb
> port=auto
>
> (port probably may refer to /dev/usb/... if that is persistent across
> boots and device plugs, but does not have to).
>
> What also comes to mind are issues with linux user privileges - whether
> that account which runs NUT may connect to USB device nodes. But if
> nut-scanner worked, probably that is okay.
>
> If you can edit /etc/rc.d/rc.ups, in the line which starts upsdrvctl you
> can add debugging with -DDDDDD which should show its attempts to find the
> USB device and possible griefs it may have along the way.
>
> Note that currently, an enabled debugging mode may preclude backgrounding
> of the driver or other NUT daemons so not sure if you'd need to add
& to
> the end of line so upsdrvctl is backgrounded still.
>
> Or if you have shell access, similarly you can run
>   /usr/libexec/nut/nutdrv_atcl_usb -DDDDDD -a powercool
>
> Hope that helps,
> Jim Klimov
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 07:44 James Billinge <jammybisme at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> In NUT under unRAID there is indeed a setting to enter a driver in.
>
> Which driver are you suggesting I try as nutdrv_qx makes NUT work, but no
> communication between NUT and the UPS.
>
> Just tried nutdrv_atcl_usb.c as driver and NUT will not start.
>
> Is there anything else I need to enter in UPS.conf to get it to work?
>
> Regards
>
> James
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 8 Apr 2021, at 02:22, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> I believe nutdrv_atcl_usb is orthogonal to nutdrv_qx "fuji"
subdriver.
> They both handle devices using an "ATCL" USB chip which does not
have a
> registered vendorId/productId, but that is where similarity stops.
> Different UPS vendors implemented different protocols and abilities using
> that chip as a transport, hence two unrelated drivers.
>
> It seems the HCL entry appeared in relation to this discussion:
> https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/issues/203
>
> Looking at
>
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/blob/master/drivers/nutdrv_atcl_usb.c
> it indeed does not have many settings, just an alternate "vendor"
string to
> match on a device which it finds with hardcoded vid:pid by looking at all
> USB devices.
>
> Unfortunately I can't help with setup of unRAID bit. I'd assume
there is a
> place to state which NUT driver you want.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 22:12 James Billinge via Nut-upsuser <
> nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net> wrote:
>
> I have spent the last few days researching the possibility of using a
> Powercool UPS with NUT under unRAID.
>
> I have posted my findings on their forums and not had much response
> besides other users wanting it to work too.
>
> https://forums.unraid.net/topic/104685-powercool-ups-compatible/
>
>
> How does one utilise nutdrv_actl_usb?
>
> https://networkupstools.org/docs/man/nutdrv_atcl_usb.html
>
> As a means of connecting to a Powercool UPS along with nutdrv_qx?
>
> Seeing this -
>
https://github.com/cbedgar/nut/blob/1e9216399b890b0770a0e8b158109eaa5e61d332/data/driver.list.in
>
> Fills me with hope that it?s feasible.
>
>
> Is it feasible or am I wasting my time?
>
> James
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James Billinge

2021-Apr-20 13:13 UTC

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[Nut-upsuser] Powercool UPS compatibility

Wonderful news Jim.

Much obliged sir!

I will reach out to the developer and make them aware.

You never know. They might even be on this mailing list.

Regards

James

On 20 Apr 2021, at 09:57, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Hi all,

In the comments for https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/pull/638/ adding
support for "hunnox" subdriver I saw somebody report that the branch
also supported their Powercool branded device. I am brushing that submission
into shape to merge it, and for that matter also plan to merge the
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/pull/1008 adding an "snr"
subdriver.

So hopefully a build of NUT from the master branch after these merges would let
your deployment see your UPS better. That said, you may have to poke the unRAID
plugin maintainer to update their package.

Jim

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 11:02 AM James Billinge <jammybisme at
hotmail.com<mailto:jammybisme at hotmail.com>> wrote:
hi Jim,

please see -
https://forums.unraid.net/topic/60217-plugin-nut-v2-network-ups-tools
[Plugin] NUT v2 - Network UPS Tools - Plugin Support -
Unraid<https://forums.unraid.net/topic/60217-plugin-nut-v2-network-ups-tools>
On 3/24/2018 at 12:02 PM, huffsper said: Did you find anything weird looking at
the log? I noticed in my logs that unBALANCE is using rm -rf to delete files,
wouldnt using rsyncs --remove-source-files be better? I took a look and didnt
find anything unusual. There were a couple of instances where...
forums.unraid.net<http://forums.unraid.net>

this is the app i am using to use NUT.

what you say about ups.conf is what i have entered and it fails to start NUT.

i've PM'ed dmacias on the unraid forums for advice but no response since
the weekend when i sent it and the forum thread isn't actively responded to
either.

really need dmacias to respond to enable guidance.

nut-scanner works, it picks up this:

Scanning for UPS...

[nutdev1]
driver = "nutdrv_qx"
port = "auto"
vendorid = "0001"
productid = "0000"
product = "MEC0003"
bus = "002"


but nutdrv_qx isn't a driver option so i pick "custom" and enter
it in, it then appears in UPS.conf and i can start/run NUT but i do not get any
readings and it says ONLINE. but if i cut the power, it doesn't change
status or act on it.


since nutdrv_atcl_usb doesn't work, i feel its because its missing. if i
could know how to put that driver in, it would be interesting to see what NUT
did if it saw it.


i will post on the unraid forum again.

thanks for the help Jim. hopefully a solution will be found!





________________________________
From: Jim Klimov <jimklimov at gmail.com<mailto:jimklimov at
gmail.com>>
Sent: 08 April 2021 09:38
To: James Billinge <jammybisme at hotmail.com<mailto:jammybisme at
hotmail.com>>
Cc: nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net<mailto:nut-upsuser at
alioth-lists.debian.net> <nut-upsuser at
alioth-lists.debian.net<mailto:nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net>>
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] Powercool UPS compatibility

I took a look at https://github.com/dmacias72/NUT-unRAID/ plugin source (not
sure it is the one you have, just the first recent plugin from googling).

Unfortunately it does not seem to reference actual NUT source well, nor a plugin
version, but just hoards several timestamped tarballs with binaries. By commit
comments it seems that at least at some point they used the
"libusb-0.1+1.0" branch which is one of our attempts to handle modern
libusb-1 in NUT (note none of the attempts yet were merged to master or released
"officially", but we are on it).

I can't quickly say if latest plugin builds are based on that too, or if you
may have a mismatch with drivers last built for libusb-0.1 trying to use
libusb-1.0 on the server. APIs differ so such mismatch might cause crashes, or
just fail to start if dynamic linking detects it.

As for ups.conf, I think you should try a minimal config like:

[powercool]
driver=nutdrv_atcl_usb
port=auto

(port probably may refer to /dev/usb/... if that is persistent across boots and
device plugs, but does not have to).

What also comes to mind are issues with linux user privileges - whether that
account which runs NUT may connect to USB device nodes. But if nut-scanner
worked, probably that is okay.

If you can edit /etc/rc.d/rc.ups, in the line which starts upsdrvctl you can add
debugging with -DDDDDD which should show its attempts to find the USB device and
possible griefs it may have along the way.

Note that currently, an enabled debugging mode may preclude backgrounding of the
driver or other NUT daemons so not sure if you'd need to add & to the
end of line so upsdrvctl is backgrounded still.

Or if you have shell access, similarly you can run
  /usr/libexec/nut/nutdrv_atcl_usb -DDDDDD -a powercool

Hope that helps,
Jim Klimov

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 07:44 James Billinge <jammybisme at
hotmail.com<mailto:jammybisme at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Jim

Thanks for the reply.

In NUT under unRAID there is indeed a setting to enter a driver in.

Which driver are you suggesting I try as nutdrv_qx makes NUT work, but no
communication between NUT and the UPS.

Just tried nutdrv_atcl_usb.c as driver and NUT will not start.

Is there anything else I need to enter in UPS.conf to get it to work?

Regards

James

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 Apr 2021, at 02:22, Jim Klimov <jimklimov at
gmail.com<mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com>> wrote:

?
I believe nutdrv_atcl_usb is orthogonal to nutdrv_qx "fuji" subdriver.
They both handle devices using an "ATCL" USB chip which does not have
a registered vendorId/productId, but that is where similarity stops. Different
UPS vendors implemented different protocols and abilities using that chip as a
transport, hence two unrelated drivers.

It seems the HCL entry appeared in relation to this discussion:
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/issues/203

Looking at
https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/blob/master/drivers/nutdrv_atcl_usb.c it
indeed does not have many settings, just an alternate "vendor" string
to match on a device which it finds with hardcoded vid:pid by looking at all USB
devices.

Unfortunately I can't help with setup of unRAID bit. I'd assume there is
a place to state which NUT driver you want.

Jim



On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 22:12 James Billinge via Nut-upsuser <nut-upsuser at
alioth-lists.debian.net<mailto:nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net>>
wrote:
I have spent the last few days researching the possibility of using a Powercool
UPS with NUT under unRAID.

I have posted my findings on their forums and not had much response besides
other users wanting it to work too.

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/104685-powercool-ups-compatible/


How does one utilise nutdrv_actl_usb?

https://networkupstools.org/docs/man/nutdrv_atcl_usb.html

As a means of connecting to a Powercool UPS along with nutdrv_qx?

Seeing this -
https://github.com/cbedgar/nut/blob/1e9216399b890b0770a0e8b158109eaa5e61d332/data/driver.list.in

Fills me with hope that it?s feasible.


Is it feasible or am I wasting my time?

James
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