Nut upsuser - Sep 2017 - Bug or feature? polling frequency = (pollfreq + pollinterval)

On 9/19/2017 6:45 PM, Charles Lepple wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Ren? Berber wrote:
>> My guess is that they are the same version (Synology keeps it updated).
> 
> Is there a way to check which version they are using? (Just curious -
probably will not affect the problem you described.)
None I could find, tried strings, might try telnet but my guess is that
it will spew the same modified version string.

Indirectly there is a Synology forum post
(https://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=134961&p=498189)
where this user says they are installing a very outdated (circa 2012)
version.  No idea how he found that out.

I also tried the open source repository put out by Synology and couldn't
find NUT; which is odd.
-- 
Ren? Berber

On Sep 19, 2017, at 9:50 PM, Ren? Berber <rberber at fastmail.fm>
wrote:
> 
> On 9/19/2017 6:45 PM, Charles Lepple wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Ren? Berber wrote:
> 
>>> My guess is that they are the same version (Synology keeps it
updated).
>> 
>> Is there a way to check which version they are using? (Just curious -
probably will not affect the problem you described.)
> None I could find, tried strings, might try telnet but my guess is that
> it will spew the same modified version string.
> 
> Indirectly there is a Synology forum post
>
(https://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=134961&p=498189)
> where this user says they are installing a very outdated (circa 2012)
> version.  No idea how he found that out.
The HID driver version can help pin things down. "MGE HID 1.33" was
committed in 2014:

https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/commit/f4a376779da0d320c7877bc49ec8025ae8ced4ed

So it is somewhere between v2.7.1 and v2.7.2.
> I also tried the open source repository put out by Synology and
couldn't
> find NUT; which is odd.
I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that if they are distributing
binaries of NUT, they need to provide a way for customers to get the source.

On September 20, 2017 4:08:08 AM GMT+02:00, Charles Lepple <clepple at
gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 19, 2017, at 9:50 PM, Ren? Berber <rberber at fastmail.fm>
wrote:
>> 
>> On 9/19/2017 6:45 PM, Charles Lepple wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:36 PM, Ren? Berber wrote:
>> 
>>>> My guess is that they are the same version (Synology keeps it
>updated).
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to check which version they are using? (Just curious
>- probably will not affect the problem you described.)
>> None I could find, tried strings, might try telnet but my guess is
>that
>> it will spew the same modified version string.
>> 
>> Indirectly there is a Synology forum post
>>
(https://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=134961&p=498189)
>> where this user says they are installing a very outdated (circa 2012)
>> version.  No idea how he found that out.
>
>The HID driver version can help pin things down. "MGE HID 1.33"
was
>committed in 2014:
>
>https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/commit/f4a376779da0d320c7877bc49ec8025ae8ced4ed
>
>So it is somewhere between v2.7.1 and v2.7.2.
>
>> I also tried the open source repository put out by Synology and
>couldn't
>> find NUT; which is odd.
>
>I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that if they are
>distributing binaries of NUT, they need to provide a way for customers
>to get the source.
>
>
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IANAL either, but technically, "they" should provide sources for
binaries on request, perhaps with reasonable costs billed for the media and
procedure (but not for the right of access itself, as the accounting point).
Having things downloadable online is a shortcut convenient for most parties, so
costly humans do not have to process the request, but is not a hard requirement.

Also in case of GPL at least, whoever has a copy may share it, so hiding sources
artificially has little benefit as an IP protection measure. A few projects
still do that, as a way to bring attention to their donation links ;) There
copies provided in distros are opensourced, but the not-yet-distro'd head
branch is available after a donation or ad page. But then they may be legally
redistributed, as marked in the readme's - just the authors express a
non-binding wish that people won't.

Jim

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