Nut upsdev - Feb 2022 - WG: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro

Hey i have a quesiton regarding NUT compability: i asked a manufacturer about
whether his product is compatible or not and this was his answer:
(p.s. im trying to find a 12V UPS that has specs along the lines as the one
mentioned in the email that can also trigger the NUT pugin on my openmediavault
server (running on a RockPro64 SBC with 12V))

I assume the answer the manufacturer gave means no?

Thank you for reading!


________________________________
Von: Shanqiu <support at hgdups.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 16:31
An: Grage, Fabian
Betreff: Re: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro

Hi Fabian,

sorry for late reply, because we are in holiday now.

about NUT protocoll, we donot have the specification and donot know what's
the input voltage and current required.

so we cannot tell it's supported or not.

please if possible check the input voltage and current of NUT protocoll.

if its:
12V at any current below 3.5A,
9V at any current below 3A,
or 5V at any current below 5A.

it will be supported.

thanks and happy 2022.
________________________________
Alvin
Customer Support Director
TEL.: +86 755 2350 1957
MOB.: +86 138 2527 8598
www . hgdups . com
Office: Bldg4., Tongtaishidai Industrial Center, Fuyong, Baoan, Shenzhen.
Factory: Minghui Bldg., Yinying Rd., Gaoying County, Dalang, Dongguan.

From: Fabian
Date: 2022-02-01 23:34
To: support at hgdups.com<mailto:support at hgdups.com>
Subject: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
Hello HGD support,

can you tell me if the  FX 5-12 Pro mini UPS
(https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html ) supports the NUT protocoll?


About the NUT protocoll: https://networkupstools.org/

Best regards,
Fabian

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On 2/2/22 17:53, Grage, Fabian wrote:
>
> Hey i have a quesiton regarding NUT compability: i asked a 
> manufacturer about whether his product is compatible or not and this 
> was his answer:
> (p.s. im trying to find a 12V UPS that has specs along the lines as 
> the one mentioned in the email that can also trigger the NUT pugin on 
> my openmediavault server (running on a RockPro64 SBC with 12V))
>
> I assume the answer the manufacturer gave means no?
>
Leaving aside that he did not even understand your question and did not 
try to read the links you gave him, the device does not seem to offer 
any sort of communication with the exterior so there is no way? to 
monitor it.? They call it UPS but actually it is just a power bank with 
multiple options for power out. Hence no, it is not supported.


wolfy


> Thank you for reading!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Von:* Shanqiu <support at hgdups.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 16:31
> *An:* Grage, Fabian
> *Betreff:* Re: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
> Hi Fabian,
>
> sorry for late reply, because we are in holiday now.
>
> about NUT protocoll, we donot have the specification and donot know 
> what's the input voltage and current required.
>
> so we cannot tell it's supported or not.
>
> please if possible check the input voltage and current of NUT protocoll.
>
> if its:
> 12V at any current below 3.5A,
> 9V at any current below 3A,
> or 5V at any current below 5A.
>
> it will be supported.
>
> thanks and happy 2022.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Alvin
> Customer Support Director
> TEL.: +86 755 2350 1957
> MOB.: +86 138 2527 8598
> www . hgdups . com
> Office: Bldg4., Tongtaishidai Industrial Center, Fuyong, Baoan, Shenzhen.
> Factory: Minghui Bldg., Yinying Rd., Gaoying County, Dalang, Dongguan.
>
>     *From:*?Fabian
>     *Date:*?2022-02-01?23:34
>     *To:* support at hgdups.com
>     *Subject:*?Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
>     Hello HGD support,
>
>     can you tell me if the ?FX 5-12 Pro mini UPS
>     (https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html
>     <https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html>?) supports the
NUT
>     protocoll?
>
>
>     About the NUT protocoll: https://networkupstools.org/
>     <https://networkupstools.org/>
>
>     Best regards,
>     Fabian
>
>
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Hello Fabian,

you got the wrong answer because of your question ;-)
NUT does not have its own protocol, but rather speaks the various 
protocols of the manufacturers (blazer, belkin, mge, microdowell, riello 
and so on) or generic protocols (SNMP or usbid-ups).
https://networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html

In my opinion it is very common, to communicate with the UPS Power 
Device by HID-compliant-protocol:It
https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/pdcv10.pdf
If you are interested in doing it yourself, you will find a lot of 
information on the internet:
https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/abratchik/hid-compliant-ups-with-arduino-75198c

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Am 02.02.22 um 16:53 schrieb Grage, Fabian:
> Hey i have a quesiton regarding NUT compability: i asked a manufacturer 
> about whether his product is compatible or not and this was his answer:
> (p.s. im trying to find a 12V UPS that has specs along the lines as the 
> one mentioned in the email that can also trigger the NUT pugin on my 
> openmediavault server (running on a RockPro64 SBC with 12V))
> 
> I assume the answer the manufacturer gave means no?
> 
> Thank you for reading!
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Von:* Shanqiu <support at hgdups.com>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 16:31
> *An:* Grage, Fabian
> *Betreff:* Re: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
> Hi Fabian,
> 
> sorry for late reply, because we are in holiday now.
> 
> about NUT protocoll, we donot have the specification and donot know 
> what's the input voltage and current required.
> 
> so we cannot tell it's supported or not.
> 
> please if possible check the input voltage and current of NUT protocoll.
> 
> if its:
> 12V at any current below 3.5A,
> 9V at any current below 3A,
> or 5V at any current below 5A.
> 
> it will be supported.
> 
> thanks and happy 2022.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Alvin
> Customer Support Director
> TEL.: +86 755 2350 1957
> MOB.: +86 138 2527 8598
> www . hgdups . com
> Office: Bldg4., Tongtaishidai Industrial Center, Fuyong, Baoan, Shenzhen.
> Factory: Minghui Bldg., Yinying Rd., Gaoying County, Dalang, Dongguan.
> 
>     *From:*?Fabian
>     *Date:*?2022-02-01?23:34
>     *To:* support at hgdups.com <mailto:support at hgdups.com>
>     *Subject:*?Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
>     Hello HGD support,
> 
>     can you tell me if the ?FX 5-12 Pro mini UPS
>     (https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html
>     <https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html>?) supports the
NUT
>     protocoll?
> 
> 
>     About the NUT protocoll: https://networkupstools.org/
>     <https://networkupstools.org/>
> 
>     Best regards,
>     Fabian

One of these may fit, they should all support the USB HID protocol,
OpenUPS is listed on the NUT HCL. The first (OpenUPS) supports various
battery configurations so is the most flexible.

https://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS?sc=8&category=1264
https://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS2?sc=8&category=1264
https://www.mini-box.com/NUC-UPS?sc=8&category=1264


On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:53:39 +0000
"Grage, Fabian" <Fabian.Grage at uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
> Hey i have a quesiton regarding NUT compability: i asked a manufacturer
about whether his product is compatible or not and this was his answer:
> (p.s. im trying to find a 12V UPS that has specs along the lines as the one
mentioned in the email that can also trigger the NUT pugin on my openmediavault
server (running on a RockPro64 SBC with 12V))
> 
> I assume the answer the manufacturer gave means no?
> 
> Thank you for reading!
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> Von: Shanqiu <support at hgdups.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 16:31
> An: Grage, Fabian
> Betreff: Re: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
> 
> Hi Fabian,
> 
> sorry for late reply, because we are in holiday now.
> 
> about NUT protocoll, we donot have the specification and donot know
what's the input voltage and current required.
> 
> so we cannot tell it's supported or not.
> 
> please if possible check the input voltage and current of NUT protocoll.
> 
> if its:
> 12V at any current below 3.5A,
> 9V at any current below 3A,
> or 5V at any current below 5A.
> 
> it will be supported.
> 
> thanks and happy 2022.
> ________________________________
> Alvin
> Customer Support Director
> TEL.: +86 755 2350 1957
> MOB.: +86 138 2527 8598
> www . hgdups . com
> Office: Bldg4., Tongtaishidai Industrial Center, Fuyong, Baoan, Shenzhen.
> Factory: Minghui Bldg., Yinying Rd., Gaoying County, Dalang, Dongguan.
> 
> From: Fabian
> Date: 2022-02-01 23:34
> To: support at hgdups.com<mailto:support at hgdups.com>
> Subject: Question regarding Mini UPS FX 5-12 Pro
> Hello HGD support,
> 
> can you tell me if the  FX 5-12 Pro mini UPS
(https://www.worldwidevoltage.com/fx-5-12.html ) supports the NUT protocoll?
> 
> 
> About the NUT protocoll: https://networkupstools.org/
> 
> Best regards,
> Fabian
>