Time, not sure who owner is, but I've tried as both admin and myself, to no
avail. ?However, I told you that mesg is y, buti tried to send a mesg using
?' write ' ?and it says I have messages disabled. ????? ? I did that by
opening two?terminals, on I logged in as ' su ', and sent the message
from there. ?Is that peculiar? Might account for why I am notgetting anything
from ' wall ' .
John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Tim Dawson <tadawson at tpcsvc.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at
lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news
Who is the owner and group for wall? Note that it is set group ID to allow it to
write to sessions . . . thus, that owner needs to be a system account that can
write to devices, not just Joe-Bob . . . You might also try 'strace
wall' to see what it is trying to do.
- Tim
On July 15, 2015 9:48:32 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
Tim,
Thanks for the feedback. ?I am the only user (standalone system), but I checked
'mesg' and made sure it was set?to 'mesg y' . ? And the execute
permissions for wall are ? rwxr-sr-x ?and the filename is has a ?kind of orange
highlightedbackground. Don't know what that means.!
John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Tim Dawson<tadawson at tpcsvc.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at
lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news
Any chance someone put 'mesg n' in the system profiles? That wou;d
suppress wall output. Try typing just 'mesg' and see what it says . . .
otherwise, check permissions on wall perhaps . . .
- Tim
On July 15, 2015 7:43:38 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
Tried 'echo hi | wall' and no message. ?I looked at 'wall -h'
and it would seem that it is supposed to. ?I eventried ?' wall
?[<filename> | <message>] ' ?and got nothing. ? Not sure what
that means, as when using theNUT-Monitor program I get banners and a
'message' on the system try. ? Strange !
John ??"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>
Cc: NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good news
On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:38 PM, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, the system shut down and turned off the UPS, which is exactly what ! I
wouldhave expected.? Also, when I
> reconnected the AC power the system did NOT automatically start up, which
again is what I would have wanted,
> and hoped for.?
Good to hear!
> So, in conclusion, NUT appears to be working correctly.? Just wish I new
why I wasn't getting messages.? But I
> can live with the way it is.? Thanks for all your help and a big thank you
to the developers.?
Not sure if you mentioned, but if you run something like "echo hi |
wall", does it broadcast a message? If not, I'd say that's a bug in
wall, but you could configure upsmon to run a different program to send a
message.
!
--
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ls -lia /<path>/wall will give you the owner and group . . . . Messages off . . . I think you are on the path . . . . -Tim On July 15, 2015 10:00:51 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:>Time, not sure who owner is, but I've tried as both admin and myself, >to no avail. ?However, I told you that mesg is y, buti tried to send a >mesg using ?' write ' ?and it says I have messages disabled. ????? ? I >did that by opening two?terminals, on I logged in as ' su ', and sent >the message from there. ?Is that peculiar? Might account for why I am >notgetting anything from ' wall ' . >John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized >piffle" >-attributed to Bertrand Russel > From: Tim Dawson <tadawson at tpcsvc.com> >To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers ><nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news > >Who is the owner and group for wall? Note that it is set group ID to >allow it to write to sessions . . . thus, that owner needs to be a >system account that can write to devices, not just Joe-Bob . . . You >might also try 'strace wall' to see what it is trying to do. > >- Tim > > > >On July 15, 2015 9:48:32 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote: >Tim, >Thanks for the feedback. ?I am the only user (standalone system), but I >checked 'mesg' and made sure it was set?to 'mesg y' . ? And the execute >permissions for wall are ? rwxr-sr-x ?and the filename is has a ?kind >of orange highlightedbackground. Don't know what that means.! >John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized >piffle" >-attributed to Bertrand Russel > From: Tim Dawson<tadawson at tpcsvc.com> >To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers ><nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news > >Any chance someone put 'mesg n' in the system profiles? That wou;d >suppress wall output. Try typing just 'mesg' and see what it says . . . >otherwise, check permissions on wall perhaps . . . > >- Tim > > > >On July 15, 2015 7:43:38 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote: >Tried 'echo hi | wall' and no message. ?I looked at 'wall -h' and it >would seem that it is supposed to. ?I eventried ?' wall ?[<filename> | ><message>] ' ?and got nothing. ? Not sure what that means, as when >using theNUT-Monitor program I get banners and a 'message' on the >system try. ? Strange ! >John ??"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized >piffle" >-attributed to Bertrand Russel > From: Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com> > To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> >Cc: NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: Good news > >On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:38 PM, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> So, the system shut down and turned off the UPS, which is exactly >what ! I wouldhave expected.? Also, when I >> reconnected the AC power the system did NOT automatically start up, >which again is what I would have wanted, >> and hoped for.? > >Good to hear! > > > >> So, in conclusion, NUT appears to be working correctly.? Just wish I >new why I wasn't getting messages.? But I >> can live with the way it is.? Thanks for all your help and a big >thank you to the developers.? > >Not sure if you mentioned, but if you run something like "echo hi | >wall", does it broadcast a message? If not, I'd say that's a bug in >wall, but you could configure upsmon to run a different program to send >a message. >! >-- >Charles Lepple >clepple at gmail > > > > > >Nut-upsdev mailing list >Nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org >http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsdev > >-- >Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > > >-- >Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/nut-upsdev/attachments/20150715/889f9feb/attachment-0001.html>
Tim,
The owner is root and the group is tty . ?However, my problem is the following.
?When I check mesg in a?terminal I get this:
john at debian:~$ mesgis yjohn at debian:~$?
However, from another terminal (as root) I get this:
root at debian:/home/john# write johnwrite: john has messages disabledroot at
debian:/home/john#?
How can it say 'mesg is y' and yet say that messages are disabled ? ?I
think I need to contact the Debian usersforum. ?It's a bit too strange for
me.
And what is strange is that when I have the NUT-Monitor running, wall appears to
work. ?It may well be somekind of permissions issue. ?I will take it up with the
Debian forum before I try changing the permissions.
John
?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Tim Dawson <tadawson at tpcsvc.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at
lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news
ls -lia /<path>/wall will give you the owner and group . . . .
Messages off . . . I think you are on the path . . . .
-Tim
On July 15, 2015 10:00:51 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
Time, not sure who owner is, but I've tried as both admin and myself, to no
avail. ?However, I told you that mesg is y, buti tried to send a mesg using
?' write ' ?and it says I have messages disabled. ????? ? I did that by
opening two?terminals, on I logged in as ' su ', and sent the message
from there. ?Is that peculiar? Might account for why I am notgetting anything
from ' wall ' .
John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Tim Dawson <tadawson at tpcsvc.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at
lists.alioth.debian.org>! ;
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news
Who is the owner and group for wall? Note that it is set group ID to allow it to
write to sessions . . . thus, that owner needs to be a system account that can
write to devices, not just Joe-Bob . . . You might also try 'strace
wall' to see what it is trying to do.
- Tim
On July 15, 2015 9:48:32 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
Tim,
Thanks for the feedback. ?I am the only user (standalone system), but I checked
'mesg' and made sure it was set?to 'mesg y' . ? And the execute
permissions for wall are ? rwxr-sr-x ?and the filename is has a ?kind of orange
highlightedbackground. Don't know what that means.!
John?"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Tim Dawson<tadawson at tpcsvc.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>; NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at
lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsdev] Good news
Any chance someone put 'mesg n' in the system profiles? That wou;d
suppress wall output. Try typing just 'mesg' and see what it says . . .
otherwise, check permissions ! on wallperhaps . . .
- Tim
On July 15, 2015 7:43:38 PM CDT, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
Tried 'echo hi | wall' and no message. ?I looked at 'wall -h'
and it would seem that it is supposed to. ?I eventried ?' wall
?[<filename> | <message>] ' ?and got nothing. ? Not sure what
that means, as when using theNUT-Monitor program I get banners and a
'message' on the system try. ? Strange !
John ??"Science is organized common sense. Philosophy is organized
piffle"
-attributed to Bertrand Russel
From: Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com>
To: john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com>
Cc: NUT Developers <nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Good news
On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:38 PM, john hart <jsamcr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, the system shut down and turned off the UPS, which is exactly what ! I
wouldhave expected.? Also, when I
> reconnected the AC power the system did NOT automatically start up, which
again is what I would have wanted,
> and hoped for.?
Good to hear!
> So, in conclusion, NUT appears to be working correctly.? Just wish I new
why I wasn't getting messages.? But I
> can live with the way it is.? Thanks for all your help and a big thank you
to the developers.?
Not sure if you mentioned, but if you run something like "echo hi |
wall", does it broadcast a message? If not, I'd say that's a bug in
wall, but you could configure upsmon to run a different program to send a
message.
!
--
Charles Lepple
clepple at gmail
Nut-upsdev mailing list
Nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nut-upsdev
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