On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 5:13 PM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu>
wrote:>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 6:09 PM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 12:52 PM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at
alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 1:40 PM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at
gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 10:55 AM Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at
alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:13 PM o1bigtenor
<o1bigtenor at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:26 PM Ilia Mirkin
<imirkin at alum.mit.edu>
wrote:https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-gtx1050ti-4g-gaming-model/spec/
> > > > > > snip
> > > >
> > > > I've been doing a bunch of research and have a whole lot
more input but still
> > > > can't find any answers - - - - except holes where there
'should be' answers.
> > > >338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync
+vsync
> > > > I also understand you're trying to help but some of the
stuff you've
> > > > been stating
> > > > - - - well - - - it just ain't so! - - - - so if
you'd rather not
> > > > continue - - - - fair enough
> > > > - - - -
> > >
> > > No one's perfect. I have to make do with guesses which are
the
> > > simplest explanations. Sometimes there's something else.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately it looks like you did this *after*
messing with modelines.
> > > > >
> > > > Getting that information would have meant being able to go
back in time some
> > > > 24 hours or so. I can't find any way of removing mode
lines from xrandr - - -
> > > > or do you know of some?338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136 2160
2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > >
> > > A reboot is a great way to reset these things.
> >
> > Unfortunately- - - - here - - - - a reboot means the use of about 30
minutes
> > in using xrandr to connect monitors 3 and 4 (even without the HDMI
I'm
> > working on) and then setting up everything else on my system (only 20
desktops
> > and almost all of the them are loaded) so reboots are used as seldom
as
> >
possible.https://rog.asus.com/ca-en/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-gtx1050ti-4g-gaming-model/spec/
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ xrandr --verbose
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ... snip ...]
> > > > >
> > > > > > HDMI-1-2 connected (normal left inverted right x
axis y axis)
> > > > > > Identifier: 0xf9
> > > > > > Timestamp: 483290
> > > > > > Subpixel: unknown
> > > > > > Clones:
> > > > > > CRTCs: 4 5
> > > > > > Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
> > > > > > 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
> > > > > > 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
> > > > > > filter:
> > > > > > EDID:
> > > > > > 00ffffffffffff0020a32f0001000000
> > > > > > 0c1a0103807341780acf74a3574cb023
> > > > > > 09484c21080081c08140818001010101
> > > > > > 01010101010104740030f2705a80b058
> > > > > > 8a00501d7400001e023a801871382d40
> > > > > > 582c4500501d7400001e000000fc0048
> > > > > > 4953454e53450a2020202020000000fd
> > > > > > 00184b0f511e000a202020202020017f
> > > > > > 02034571525f5e5d0102040510111314
> > > > > > 1f202122626364290907071507505506
> > > > > > 0083010000e200f9e305ff016e030c00
> > > > > > 1000383c20008001020304e50e60616a
> > > > > > 6be3060d01011d8018711c1620582c25
> > > > > > 00c48e2100009e011d80d0721c162010
> > > > > > 2c2580c48e2100009e023a80d072382d
> > > > > > 40102c4580c48e2100001e00000000d5
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, so this is your 4k monitor. It is plugged into the
*secondary*
> > > > > GPU, and does not report any 4k at 60 modes in the EDID
(well, it does
> > > > > report 4k at 60 YUV 4:2:0 modes, but we don't
support those in nouveau at
> > > > > this time). Whether that's because the monitor
itself doesn't support
> > > > > HDMI 2.0, or you plugged it into your old GPU which
does not support
> > > > > HDMI 2.0, I couldn't say from just this output.
What I can say is that
> > > > > no amount of modelines will get you 4k at 60 in this
setup with nouveau.
> > > >
> > > > Here comes the part where you're getting some very funky
information
> > > > and I wish I knew from where!
> > > > Actually the code, in hex, is NOT EDID - - - - that was
superseded in
> > > > some 2017. Now that may be what nouveau is using but EDID2.0
was
> > > > released some time in 2007 yet its EDID1.4 that is used.
That's the first
> > > > problem and it introduces the next problems. Using EDID
means that
> > > > nouveau 'thinks' it see a : (taken from
/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
> > >
> > > EDID is very much a thing, and is basically the only thing.
Things
> > > like DisplayID are extension blocks to the EDID.
> > >
> > > > So where are we at now - - - - -
> > > > well there is NO HDMI port on the EVGA Nvidia 570 card
> > >
> > > OK, that was a bad guess on my part to explain what I was seeing.
> > >
> > > > HDMI cable IS plugged in and there is only only place for it
to be plugged
> > > > in - - - - so the HDMI cable is plugged into the Nvidia
1050 Ti card
> > >
> > > Cool. So then what you said was incorrect -- the GTX 570 is the
> > > primary, and the 1050 is secondary. Please flip that around.
> > >
> > > > EDID really is way beyond EOL
> > > > Information provided by the EDID reading is most likely
erroneous
> > > > Nouveau at lest doesn't seem to have gotten to DisplayID
where the current,
> > > > at least as of 2017, version is 2.0
> > > > if DisplayID were used perhaps the information listed as
taken from my system
> > > > might be accurate
> > >
> > > EDID is the only way for a monitor to provide information.
DisplayID
> > > is a block within the EDID. You can access a relatively
full-featured
> > > parser at https://people.freedesktop.org/~imirkin/edid-decode/ --
just
> > > paste the hex there.
> >
> > edid-decode (hex):
> >
> > 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 20 a3 2f 00 01 00 00 00
> > 0c 1a 01 03 80 73 41 78 0a cf 74 a3 57 4c b0 23
> > 09 48 4c 21 08 00 81 c0 81 40 81 80 01 01 01 01
> > 01 01 01 01 01 01 04 74 00 30 f2 70 5a 80 b0 58
> > 8a 00 50 1d 74 00 00 1e 02 3a 80 18 71 38 2d 40
> > 58 2c 45 00 50 1d 74 00 00 1e 00 00 00 fc 00 48
> > 49 53 45 4e 53 45 0a 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 fd
> > 00 18 4b 0f 51 1e 00 0a 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 7f
> >
> > 02 03 45 71 52 5f 5e 5d 01 02 04 05 10 11 13 14
> > 1f 20 21 22 62 63 64 29 09 07 07 15 07 50 55 06
> > 00 83 01 00 00 e2 00 f9 e3 05 ff 01 6e 03 0c 00
> > 10 00 38 3c 20 00 80 01 02 03 04 e5 0e 60 61 6a
> > 6b e3 06 0d 01 01 1d 80 18 71 1c 16 20 58 2c 25
> > 00 c4 8e 21 00 00 9e 01 1d 80 d0 72 1c 16 20 10
> > 2c 25 80 c4 8e 21 00 00 9e 02 3a 80 d0 72 38 2d
> > 40 10 2c 45 80 c4 8e 21 00 00 1e 00 00 00 00 d5
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Block 0, Base EDID:
> > EDID Structure Version & Revision: 1.3
> > Vendor & Product Identification:
> > Manufacturer: HEC
> > Model: 47
> > Serial Number: 1
> > Made in: week 12 of 2016
> > Basic Display Parameters & Features:
> > Digital display
> > Maximum image size: 115 cm x 65 cm
> > Gamma: 2.20
> > RGB color display
> > First detailed timing is the preferred timing
> > Color Characteristics:
> > Red : 0.6396, 0.3398
> > Green: 0.2998, 0.6904
> > Blue : 0.1376, 0.0380
> > White: 0.2822, 0.2968
> > Established Timings I & II:
> > DMT 0x04: 640x480 59.940 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 25.175 MHz
> > DMT 0x09: 800x600 60.317 Hz 4:3 37.879 kHz 40.000 MHz
> > DMT 0x10: 1024x768 60.004 Hz 4:3 48.363 kHz 65.000 MHz
> > Standard Timings:
> > DMT 0x55: 1280x720 60.000 Hz 16:9 45.000 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > DMT 0x20: 1280x960 60.000 Hz 4:3 60.000 kHz 108.000 MHz
> > DMT 0x23: 1280x1024 60.020 Hz 5:4 63.981 kHz 108.000 MHz
> > Detailed Timing Descriptors:
> > DTD 1: 3840x2160 30.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> > Hfront 176 Hsync 88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> > Vfront 8 Vsync 10 Vback 72 Vpol P
> > DTD 2: 1920x1080 60.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> > Hfront 88 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> > Vfront 4 Vsync 5 Vback 36 Vpol P
> > Display Product Name: 'HISENSE'
> > Display Range Limits:
> > Monitor ranges (GTF): 24-75 Hz V, 15-81 kHz H, max dotclock 300
MHz
> > Extension blocks: 1
> > Checksum: 0x7f
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Block 1, CTA-861 Extension Block:
> > Revision: 3
> > Basic audio support
> > Supports YCbCr 4:4:4
> > Supports YCbCr 4:2:2
> > Native detailed modes: 1
> > Video Data Block:
> > VIC 95: 3840x2160 30.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 94: 3840x2160 25.000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 93: 3840x2160 24.000 Hz 16:9 54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 1: 640x480 59.940 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 25.175 MHz
> > VIC 2: 720x480 59.940 Hz 4:3 31.469 kHz 27.000 MHz
> > VIC 4: 1280x720 60.000 Hz 16:9 45.000 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 5: 1920x1080i 60.000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 16: 1920x1080 60.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 148.500 MHz
> > VIC 17: 720x576 50.000 Hz 4:3 31.250 kHz 27.000 MHz
> > VIC 19: 1280x720 50.000 Hz 16:9 37.500 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 20: 1920x1080i 50.000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 31: 1920x1080 50.000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 148.500 MHz
> > VIC 32: 1920x1080 24.000 Hz 16:9 27.000 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 33: 1920x1080 25.000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 34: 1920x1080 30.000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250 MHz
> > VIC 98: 4096x2160 24.000 Hz 256:135 54.000 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 99: 4096x2160 25.000 Hz 256:135 56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 100: 4096x2160 30.000 Hz 256:135 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > Audio Data Block:
> > Linear PCM:
> > Max channels: 2
> > Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
> > Supported sample sizes (bits): 24 20 16
> > AC-3:
> > Max channels: 6
> > Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1 32
> > Maximum bit rate: 640 kb/s
> > Enhanced AC-3 (DD+):
> > Max channels: 6
> > Supported sample rates (kHz): 48 44.1
> > Speaker Allocation Data Block:
> > FL/FR - Front Left/Right
> > Video Capability Data Block:
> > YCbCr quantization: Selectable (via AVI YQ)
> > RGB quantization: Selectable (via AVI Q)
> > PT scan behavior: Supports both over- and underscan
> > IT scan behavior: Always Underscanned
> > CE scan behavior: Always Overscanned
> > Colorimetry Data Block:
> > xvYCC601
> > xvYCC709
> > sYCC601
> > opYCC601
> > opRGB
> > BT2020cYCC
> > BT2020YCC
> > BT2020RGB
> > Vendor-Specific Data Block (HDMI), OUI 00-0C-03:
> > Source physical address: 1.0.0.0
> > DC_36bit
> > DC_30bit
> > DC_Y444
> > Maximum TMDS clock: 300 MHz
> > Extended HDMI video details:
> > HDMI VICs:
> > HDMI VIC 1: 3840x2160 30.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000
MHz
> > HDMI VIC 2: 3840x2160 25.000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 297.000
MHz
> > HDMI VIC 3: 3840x2160 24.000 Hz 16:9 54.000 kHz 297.000
MHz
> > HDMI VIC 4: 4096x2160 24.000 Hz 256:135 54.000 kHz 297.000
MHz
> > YCbCr 4:2:0 Video Data Block:
> > VIC 96: 3840x2160 50.000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 97: 3840x2160 60.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 106: 3840x2160 50.000 Hz 64:27 56.250 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > VIC 107: 3840x2160 60.000 Hz 64:27 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > HDR Static Metadata Data Block:
> > Electro optical transfer functions:
> > Traditional gamma - SDR luminance range
> > SMPTE ST2084
> > Hybrid Log-Gamma
> > Supported static metadata descriptors:
> > Static metadata type 1
> > Detailed Timing Descriptors:
> > DTD 3: 1920x1080i 60.000 Hz 16:9 33.750 kHz 74.250 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> > Hfront 88 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> > Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5
Odd Field
> > Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vback +0.5
Even Field
> > DTD 4: 1920x1080i 50.000 Hz 16:9 28.125 kHz 74.250 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> > Hfront 528 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> > Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vfront +0.5
Odd Field
> > Vfront 2 Vsync 5 Vback 15 Vpol P Vback +0.5
Even Field
> > DTD 5: 1920x1080 50.000 Hz 16:9 56.250 kHz 148.500 MHz (708
> > mm x 398 mm)
> > Hfront 528 Hsync 44 Hback 148 Hpol P
> > Vfront 4 Vsync 5 Vback 36 Vpol P
> > Checksum: 0xd5
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Preferred Video Timing if only Block 0 is parsed:
> > DTD 1: 3840x2160 30.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> > Hfront 176 Hsync 88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> > Vfront 8 Vsync 10 Vback 72 Vpol P
> >
> > ----------------
> >
> > Native Video Timing if only Block 0 is parsed:
> > DTD 1: 3840x2160 30.000 Hz 16:9 67.500 kHz 297.000 MHz
> > (1872 mm x 1053 mm)
> > Hfront 176 Hsync 88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> > Vfront 8 Vsync 10 Vback 72 Vpol P
>
> Yes ... I ran that output myself. What's the point here? Just
> confirming all the things I said I guess?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I knew it was for secondary GPU. Based on your comments,
that
> > > was the 570. I shouldn't have assumed that to be accurate,
that's my
> > > bad. I know it's the secondary because the output is named
HDMI-1-2.
> > > That means it's on a secondary device. If it were primary, it
would
> > > have been like HDMI-1 or HDMI-2.
> >
> > xrandr gives the following
> > HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > Identifier: 0x44
> > Timestamp: 483290
> > Subpixel: unknown
> > Clones:
> > CRTCs: 0 1 2 3
> > Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
> > 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136
> > 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136 2160
> > 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
> > filter:
> > dithering depth: auto
> > supported: auto, 6 bpc, 8 bpc
> > dithering mode: auto
> > supported: auto, off, static 2x2, dynamic 2x2, temporal
> > scaling mode: None
> > supported: None, Full, Center, Full aspect
> > color vibrance: 150
> > range: (0, 200)
> > vibrant hue: 90
> > range: (0, 180)
> > underscan vborder: 0
> > range: (0, 128)
> > underscan hborder: 0
> > range: (0, 128)
> > underscan: off
> > supported: auto, off, on
> > link-status: Good
> > supported: Good, Bad
> > CONNECTOR_ID: 71
> > supported: 71
> > non-desktop: 0
> > range: (0, 1)
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps not all the HDMI ports on the device are HDMI
2.0-capable? Or
> > > perhaps not all of them are on the GPU? What I'm seeing is
the monitor
> > > reporting a max TMDS of 300mhz, which is not enough for 4k at 60.
However
> > > 4k at 30 should work just fine out of the box.
> > >
> >
> > Had done apt upgrade so now am on a 5.10 kernel. (Maybe that will
change
> > some things - - - here's hoping!!)
> > Did a reboot.
> > Setup system (xrandr to setup monitors for card 1 + other programs).
> >
> > $ cvt 3840 2160 30
> > # 3840x2160 29.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 65.96 kHz; pclk: 338.75 MHz
> > Modeline "3840x2160_30.00" 338.75 3840 4080 4488 5136
2160 2163
> > 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > $ xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30.00" 338.75 3840 4080 4488
5136
> > 2160 2163 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
> > $ xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 3840x2160_30.00
>
> If you do this, then you know you're messing something up. If the
> modeline isn't already there, don't try adding it. It won't
work.
So what you're saying is that you can't add a
modeline?https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions
was what I was following - - - - as I assumed that an undetected modeline
would be the same in Arch as it is in Debian.>
> Anyways, good luck in getting this to work. It doesn't seem like
> you're too interested in applying my suggestions, so I'm not sure
how
> I can help.
If you would point out a suggestion that I haven't tried - - - please?
Regards