Nouveau - Apr 2014 - System fails to boot w/o boot option "nomodeset"

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Schneider <c.monty at web.de>
wrote:
> Well, with the setting/option "nomodeset" I don't use any
xorg.conf at all.
>
> I'm just not sure if the system would boot w/o xorg.conf and w/o
> "nomodeset".
>
> Anyway, I will give it a try and use the recommended options
> "nouveau.noaccel=1" and "nouveau.agpmode=0" (also in
combination).
>
> Question:
> Could someone give a statement about the potential root cause?
Not without you providing some more info. You have "quiet" in your
kernel command line (twice, it seems) -- I would assume that logs
printed to the console would provide some indication of where things
go wrong, so try removing quiet. You can also try setting up
netconsole.
> Could it be true that there's no working driver for this graphic card
on
> Linux?
NV15 should be supported by nouveau. Of course, it's an older card
that's harder to come by nowadays, so it's quite believable that
support for it would have regressed somehow. I do know that the PCI
versions of NV05 and NV18 work fine.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Thomas Schneider <c.monty at web.de>
wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I assume I could use "nouveau.noaccel=1" in the command line
of grub menu?
> Yes, that's the idea.
>>
>> If that is true, do I need a xorg.conf file?
> You need one as much or as little as you needed one before.
>>
>> With regards to your question, if the system worked before...
>> Yes, the system worked well with Win XP.
> OK, good to know.
> -ilia
>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. April 2014 um 06:24 Uhr
> Von: "Ilia Mirkin" <imirkin at alum.mit.edu>
> An: "Thomas Schneider" <c.monty at web.de>
> Cc: "nouveau at lists.freedesktop.org" <nouveau at
lists.freedesktop.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Nouveau] System fails to boot w/o boot option
"nomodeset"
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Schneider <c.monty at web.de>
wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I'm using rather old hardware:
>> Mainboard (Asus A7N8X)
>> AGP (Asus V7700)
>>
>> manfred at pc1:~$ lspci -v | grep VGA
>> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV15 [GeForce2
>> GTS/Pro] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
>>
>> My operating system is SolydX based on Debian Testing.
>>
>> The issue is that I cannot start the system w/o boot option
"nomodeset".
>
> Using nomodeset disables nouveau entirely, so you won't be able to use
> the 'nouveau' ddx either. It'd probably work with vesa or
something.
>
> Things to try:
>
> nouveau.noaccel=1
> nouveau.agpmode=0
>
> (also in combination)
>
> Did this system ever work? Any indication that the hardware isn't
> terminally busted?
>
>> I get this information after displaying Grub menu:
>>
>> Linux 3.11-2-486 wird geladen ...
>> Initiale Ramdisk wird geladen ...
>>
>> Loading, please wait ...
>>
>>
>> Then the system is freezing and I need to hard reset.
>
> If you boot without the quiet option it should make it much more
> apparent where things are going wrong.
>
> -ilia