Markdown Discuss - Oct 2007 - seemingly no good way to end bulleted list and start code block

Howdy,

The following bug report was sent to the Debian BTS.  Is there a way
to have a code block immediately follow an unordered list?

----- Forwarded message from Joey Hess <joeyh at debian.org> -----

Consider this markdown:

* bla
* bla2

    this should be treated as code block

and it is not ...

    but if bullets are not above this, it works

If the first code block is indented with 8 spaces, or 2 tabs, it will be
treated as a nested code block inside the second list item, but there seems
to be no way to make it be seen as a code block that immediately follows
the list.

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
Matt

Matt Kraai wrote:
> If the first code block is indented with 8 spaces, or 2 tabs, it will be
> treated as a nested code block inside the second list item, but there seems
> to be no way to make it be seen as a code block that immediately follows
> the list.
A known shortcoming.

http://www.mail-archive.com/markdown-discuss at six.pairlist.net/msg00724.html

A secondary, explicit code block syntax would work around it.  So
far, there's only some 'like' for that idea, no love.

LQ

* Matt Kraai <kraai at ftbfs.org> [2007-10-07
02:55]:
> there seems to be no way to make it be seen as a code block
> that immediately follows the list.
Clumsy, but there is:

    * bla
    * bla2

    <!-- -->

        this should be treated as code block

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>

Le 2007-10-06 ? 19:37, Matt Kraai a ?crit :
> Howdy,
>
> The following bug report was sent to the Debian BTS.  Is there a way
> to have a code block immediately follow an unordered list?
As Aristotle pointed out, there's a workaround: use an HTML comment,  
like that:

     * bla
     * bla

     <!-- comment -->

         this is a code block.

It's not optimal, but the only solution currently.

Note that creating a second paragraph in the list item is correct  
behaviour, not a bug. That you can't write a code block immediately  
following a list is unfortunate, but since it would be done using the  
exact same characters as for adding a paragraph to a list item, it's  
a design issue we can't really solve without changing some part of  
the syntax.

  - - -

This issue has been raised many times, and I've been personally biten  
by it too. I also noticed that with PHP Markdown Extra, many new  
features (footnotes, definition lists) behave like list items and  
can't be immediately followed by an indented code block.

So I'm seriously thinking about adding a second (unindented) code  
block syntax to PHP Markdown Extra that would avoid this issue  
entirely. Something like this:

     Regular paragraph

     ~~~
     Code block
     ~~~

Of course, unless John adopts it for Markdown, it'll only benefit  
users of PHP Markdown Extra.


Michel Fortin
michel.fortin at michelf.com
http://michelf.com/

On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 04:06:50AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis
wrote:
> * Matt Kraai <kraai at ftbfs.org> [2007-10-07 02:55]:
> > there seems to be no way to make it be seen as a code block
> > that immediately follows the list.
> 
> Clumsy, but there is:
> 
>     * bla
>     * bla2
> 
>     <!-- -->
> 
>         this should be treated as code block
Thanks for the workaround.

-- 
Matt