Begin forwarded message:> From: Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> > Date: 27 January 2008 21:17:28 GMT > To: steve at asklater.com > Subject: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing. > > Hi, > Reading the mapstraction home page, You speek about mapstraction > mailing list. > All the pointers go on the openstreetmap mailing lists and I saw the > mapstraction mailing list doesn''t exist. > > I don''t know to whom I must send this mail. You are the first where > your email is easy to found. > > My question is about mapstraction licensing. > Apparently, it''s free. I don''t see exactly what license you are using. > I would like to get it into a free genealogy program ( http://www.gramps-project.org/ > ) > My questions are : > Can we put your product in a GPL program ? Is there a licensing > problem ? > If the answer is yes, can we insert your product into our gramps > project ? > > If you are not the good person who can answer to my questions, > can you forward it to the good person ? > > Many thanks in advance. >have fun, SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/
Andrew Turner
2008-Jan-28 20:33 UTC
[Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing.
Thanks for pointing out the Mailing list link - I fixed that. Regarding licensing - Mapstraction is under a BSD-style license. What are the examples or knowledge about using BSD code in GPL licensed Code? For a simple answer - I would assume if you just use the Mapstraction "API" then it is easier and acts like a library or uncompiled application. However, IANAL, so I would appreciate any additional insight into this. With regards to the question if you "may", I believe everyone involved would say "yes" - we''re all about Mapstraction getting used. Andrew On Jan 28, 2008 3:16 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:> > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> > > Date: 27 January 2008 21:17:28 GMT > > To: steve at asklater.com > > Subject: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing. > > > > Hi, > > Reading the mapstraction home page, You speek about mapstraction > > mailing list. > > All the pointers go on the openstreetmap mailing lists and I saw the > > mapstraction mailing list doesn''t exist. > > > > I don''t know to whom I must send this mail. You are the first where > > your email is easy to found. > > > > My question is about mapstraction licensing. > > Apparently, it''s free. I don''t see exactly what license you are using. > > I would like to get it into a free genealogy program ( http://www.gramps-project.org/ > > ) > > My questions are : > > Can we put your product in a GPL program ? Is there a licensing > > problem ? > > If the answer is yes, can we insert your product into our gramps > > project ? > > > > If you are not the good person who can answer to my questions, > > can you forward it to the good person ? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > have fun, > > SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Mapstraction mailing list > Mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com > http://lists.mapstraction.com/listinfo.cgi/mapstraction-mapstraction.com >-- Andrew Turner ajturner at highearthorbit.com 42.2774N x 83.7611W http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography
On 28 Jan 2008, at 21:04, Michael Schwieger wrote:> Hi Steve, >I think you meant Serge?> I am not a lawyer either. But I want to point out that besides the > Mapstraction license you also have to look carefully at the terms of > the underlying mapping API that you want to use. Those are mostly > simple terms as far as I have seen. But they do come with > limitations. Unless you want to use the Mapstraction API on top of > your own mapping API. > > Thanks > Michael > > > Andrew Turner wrote: >> >> Thanks for pointing out the Mailing list link - I fixed that. >> >> Regarding licensing - Mapstraction is under a BSD-style license. What >> are the examples or knowledge about using BSD code in GPL licensed >> Code? >> >> For a simple answer - I would assume if you just use the Mapstraction >> "API" then it is easier and acts like a library or uncompiled >> application. However, IANAL, so I would appreciate any additional >> insight into this. >> >> With regards to the question if you "may", I believe everyone >> involved >> would say "yes" - we''re all about Mapstraction getting used. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Jan 28, 2008 3:16 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote: >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> >>>> From: Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> >>>> Date: 27 January 2008 21:17:28 GMT >>>> To: steve at asklater.com >>>> Subject: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing. >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Reading the mapstraction home page, You speek about >>>> mapstraction >>>> mailing list. >>>> All the pointers go on the openstreetmap mailing lists and I saw >>>> the >>>> mapstraction mailing list doesn''t exist. >>>> >>>> I don''t know to whom I must send this mail. You are the first where >>>> your email is easy to found. >>>> >>>> My question is about mapstraction licensing. >>>> Apparently, it''s free. I don''t see exactly what license you are >>>> using. >>>> I would like to get it into a free genealogy program ( http://www.gramps-project.org/ >>>> ) >>>> My questions are : >>>> Can we put your product in a GPL program ? Is there a licensing >>>> problem ? >>>> If the answer is yes, can we insert your product into our gramps >>>> project ? >>>> >>>> If you are not the good person who can answer to my questions, >>>> can you forward it to the good person ? >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> >>> have fun, >>> >>> SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mapstraction mailing list >>> Mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com >>> http://lists.mapstraction.com/listinfo.cgi/mapstraction-mapstraction.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Mapsolute GmbH > Product Manager MapTP > Phone: +49 (6196) 777 56 - 171 > Mobile: +49 (176) 177 56 171 > Fax: +49 (6196) 777 56 - 100 > Email: schwieger at mapsolute.com > > Visit the Mapsolute Developer Network http://devnet.map24.com > > Place of Business: Eschborn, HRB 46215 > Local Court Frankfurt am Main > Managing Directors: Thomas Golob, Alexander Wiegand > USt-ID-No.: DE 197947163have fun, SteveC | steve at asklater.com | http://www.asklater.com/steve/
Andrew Turner
2008-Jan-29 13:14 UTC
[Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing.
On Jan 29, 2008 6:40 AM, Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> wrote:> Le/The lundi 28 janvier 2008, Michael Schwieger a ?crit/wrote : > > Hi Steve, > > > > I am not a lawyer either. But I want to point out that besides the Mapstraction license you also have to look carefully at the terms of the underlying mapping API that you want to use. Those are mostly simple terms as far as I have seen. But they do come with limitations. Unless you want to use the Mapstraction API on top of your own mapping API. > > > > Thanks > > Michael > OK. I understand that. > If you had a list from a free point of view > what API is the best and what is the worst ? > I suppose openstreetmap is the best. > Does someone already done this work ?Serge, I think if you look at Michael''s sig, you might notice he may be a little biased. :) But what provider is best really depends on the specifics of the: quality of coverage area, display style, and terms of service. While OpenStreetMap is a very open license, it doesn''t have great coverage everywhere. I assume one of the reasons you''re looking at Mapstraction would be to allow users to easily change providers as they wanted to. So my suggestion would be to provide a configuration for choosing provider (either globally, or optionally be map display). -- Andrew Turner ajturner at highearthorbit.com 42.2774N x 83.7611W http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography
Michael Schwieger
2008-Jan-29 22:16 UTC
[Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing.
Hi Andrew,> Serge, I think if you look at Michael''s sig, you might notice he may be a > little biased. :)thanks for pointing that out :-) I intentionally did not add link to any of the terms I was referring too but forgot to remove my signature. But no worries, I am not a Sales guy! But seriously, from what I understand the objective for openstreetmap is it to provide a map with no strings attached such as license limitations attached. That''s just something that an API provider with commercial map data behind it can''t do. Michael -----Original Message----- From: mapstraction-bounces at lists.mapstraction.com [mailto:mapstraction-bounces at lists.mapstraction.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Turner Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:14 PM To: Serge Noiraud Cc: mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com Subject: Re: [Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing. On Jan 29, 2008 6:40 AM, Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> wrote:> Le/The lundi 28 janvier 2008, Michael Schwieger a ?crit/wrote : > > Hi Steve, > > > > I am not a lawyer either. But I want to point out that besides theMapstraction license you also have to look carefully at the terms of the underlying mapping API that you want to use. Those are mostly simple terms as far as I have seen. But they do come with limitations. Unless you want to use the Mapstraction API on top of your own mapping API.> > > > Thanks > > Michael > OK. I understand that. > If you had a list from a free point of view > what API is the best and what is the worst ? > I suppose openstreetmap is the best. > Does someone already done this work ?Serge, I think if you look at Michael''s sig, you might notice he may be a little biased. :) But what provider is best really depends on the specifics of the: quality of coverage area, display style, and terms of service. While OpenStreetMap is a very open license, it doesn''t have great coverage everywhere. I assume one of the reasons you''re looking at Mapstraction would be to allow users to easily change providers as they wanted to. So my suggestion would be to provide a configuration for choosing provider (either globally, or optionally be map display). -- Andrew Turner ajturner at highearthorbit.com 42.2774N x 83.7611W http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography _______________________________________________ Mapstraction mailing list Mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com http://lists.mapstraction.com/listinfo.cgi/mapstraction-mapstraction.com
Andrew Turner
2008-Jan-30 03:54 UTC
[Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing.
I''m currently compiling a list of coverage for all the mapping API''s covered in Mapstraction. I think it makes sense to collect the links to the terms of service and - if possible - some basic summary. Just so users have a clear idea how the terms may affect their intended usage. On Jan 29, 2008 5:16 PM, Michael Schwieger <schwieger at mapsolute.com> wrote:> Hi Andrew, > > > Serge, I think if you look at Michael''s sig, you might notice he may be a > > little biased. :) > > thanks for pointing that out :-) > > I intentionally did not add link to any of the terms I was referring too but > forgot to remove my signature. But no worries, I am not a Sales guy! > > But seriously, from what I understand the objective for openstreetmap is it > to provide a map with no strings attached such as license limitations > attached. That''s just something that an API provider with commercial map > data behind it can''t do. > > > Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mapstraction-bounces at lists.mapstraction.com > [mailto:mapstraction-bounces at lists.mapstraction.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Turner > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:14 PM > To: Serge Noiraud > Cc: mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com > Subject: Re: [Mapstraction] Fwd: Mapstraction mailing list and licensing. > > On Jan 29, 2008 6:40 AM, Serge Noiraud <Serge.Noiraud at free.fr> wrote: > > Le/The lundi 28 janvier 2008, Michael Schwieger a ?crit/wrote : > > > Hi Steve, > > > > > > I am not a lawyer either. But I want to point out that besides the > Mapstraction license you also have to look carefully at the terms of the > underlying mapping API that you want to use. Those are mostly simple terms > as far as I have seen. But they do come with limitations. Unless you want to > use the Mapstraction API on top of your own mapping API. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Michael > > OK. I understand that. > > If you had a list from a free point of view > > what API is the best and what is the worst ? > > I suppose openstreetmap is the best. > > Does someone already done this work ? > > Serge, I think if you look at Michael''s sig, you might notice he may > be a little biased. :) > > But what provider is best really depends on the specifics of the: > quality of coverage area, display style, and terms of service. > > While OpenStreetMap is a very open license, it doesn''t have great > coverage everywhere. > > I assume one of the reasons you''re looking at Mapstraction would be to > allow users to easily change providers as they wanted to. So my > suggestion would be to provide a configuration for choosing provider > (either globally, or optionally be map display). > > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajturner at highearthorbit.com 42.2774N x 83.7611W > http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography > > _______________________________________________ > Mapstraction mailing list > Mapstraction at lists.mapstraction.com > http://lists.mapstraction.com/listinfo.cgi/mapstraction-mapstraction.com > >-- Andrew Turner ajturner at highearthorbit.com 42.2774N x 83.7611W http://highearthorbit.com Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography