llvm dev - Jan 2022 - LLVM Infrastructure Changes - Moving to Discourse

GMail is classifying some messages into spam  ( if the GMail is unable to
verify that the
mail is coming  from the  "SENDER" ) : This means , the sender is NOT
properly configured
which is NOT responding to GMail verification checks properly  .

I am receiving many such messages from , especially FreeBSD mailing lists
due to
original sender mail accounts not properly configured or sender name
contain
invisible invalid characters .
LLVM and its associated parts  messages are never classified as spam in my
accounts .

My opinion is that Discourse messages from LLVM are not properly configured
,
GMail is not able  to verify their origin and send them to "spam"
directory .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk





On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 4:18 AM Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> Should we add to the documentation to whitelist from spam filters the
> sender <llvm at discoursemail.com> ?
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:59 PM Brooks Davis via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:32:15PM +0000, Alex Bradbury via llvm-dev
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 07:19, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
>> > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > LLVM Community,
>> > >
>> > > I just posted a blog post about the upcoming changes to the
mailing
>> lists and LLVM Discourse forums:
>> > > https://blog.llvm.org/posts/2022-01-07-moving-to-discourse/
>> > >
>> > > I am sure some may be anxious about this change, but I hope
we can
>> work together as a community to resolve any potential issues or help
each
>> other navigate this change. I have put the migration to discourse guide
>> that was drafted by the Infrastructure Working Group in LLVM Docs, and
>> encourage people to add their tips and tricks to help others migrate
over.
>> > > https://llvm.org/docs/DiscourseMigrationGuide.html
>> > >
>> > > If you have any questions about the plan, please let me know.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if others have seen this issue, but I've
enabled 'mailing
>> > list mode' and found all LLVM Discourse emails are being
classified as
>> > spam by GMail. The emails passed SPF, DKIM and DMARC checks so it
>> > doesn't look like there's anything that can be done on
Discourse's
>> > side. Just thought I'd flag it as an issue in case others were
>> > experiencing it.
>>
>> I subscribed to a few categories and upon seeing this message checked
>> and a bunch of mail had ended up in gmail's spam filters.
>>
>> -- Brooks
>> _______________________________________________
>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>
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On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:40 PM Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <
m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> GMail is classifying some messages into spam  ( if the GMail is unable to
> verify that the
> mail is coming  from the  "SENDER" ) : This means , the sender is
NOT
> properly configured
> which is NOT responding to GMail verification checks properly  .
>
> I am receiving many such messages from , especially FreeBSD mailing lists
> due to
> original sender mail accounts not properly configured or sender name
> contain
> invisible invalid characters .
> LLVM and its associated parts  messages are never classified as spam in my
> accounts .
>
> My opinion is that Discourse messages from LLVM are not properly
> configured ,
> GMail is not able  to verify their origin and send them to "spam"
> directory .
>
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>
>
If I understand you correctly: if this was the problem, then everyone using
gmail would have all Discourse email always in spam.
I don't believe this is that easy or clear cut however: many folks working
on MLIR are using gmail and Discourse for > 2 years now, and I never had a
spam issue so far.
So there likely are some heuristics involved here (I don't have any inside
knowledge of how gmail works to be clear).

-- 
Mehdi

>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 4:18 AM Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> Should we add to the documentation to whitelist from spam filters the
>> sender <llvm at discoursemail.com> ?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:59 PM Brooks Davis via llvm-dev <
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 12:32:15PM +0000, Alex Bradbury via
llvm-dev
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 07:19, Tanya Lattner via llvm-dev
>>> > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > LLVM Community,
>>> > >
>>> > > I just posted a blog post about the upcoming changes to
the mailing
>>> lists and LLVM Discourse forums:
>>> > >
https://blog.llvm.org/posts/2022-01-07-moving-to-discourse/
>>> > >
>>> > > I am sure some may be anxious about this change, but I
hope we can
>>> work together as a community to resolve any potential issues or
help each
>>> other navigate this change. I have put the migration to discourse
guide
>>> that was drafted by the Infrastructure Working Group in LLVM Docs,
and
>>> encourage people to add their tips and tricks to help others
migrate over.
>>> > > https://llvm.org/docs/DiscourseMigrationGuide.html
>>> > >
>>> > > If you have any questions about the plan, please let me
know.
>>> >
>>> > I'm not sure if others have seen this issue, but I've
enabled 'mailing
>>> > list mode' and found all LLVM Discourse emails are being
classified as
>>> > spam by GMail. The emails passed SPF, DKIM and DMARC checks so
it
>>> > doesn't look like there's anything that can be done on
Discourse's
>>> > side. Just thought I'd flag it as an issue in case others
were
>>> > experiencing it.
>>>
>>> I subscribed to a few categories and upon seeing this message
checked
>>> and a bunch of mail had ended up in gmail's spam filters.
>>>
>>> -- Brooks
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>
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