Amara Emerson via llvm-dev
2021-Jan-20 06:51 UTC
[llvm-dev] [GlobalISel] Prioritizing long patterns in combiner over short ones
+Daniel. Daniel, do you remember if there was a strong reason for choosing to go top-down on the combiner? Amara> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Jay Foad via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > > I am really surprised that "the combiner runs top-down". Surely it's > better to combine smaller sub-expressions before combining larger > expressions? Or is there actually a good reason to keep the top-down > order?? > > DAGCombiner also runs mostly top-down (but it can also add nodes to > the worklist in a bottom-up direction for certain cases). The top-down > order causes problems when you have deep expressions trees that could > be simplified away to nothing. Outer combines see these subexpression > unsimplified. They can use recursive helper functions like > computeKnownBits to try to analyse the unsimplified expression, but > the recursive helper functions typically have a max recursion depth of > 6. which is easy to hit. > > DAGCombiner is so embedded now that it is hard to change the basic > top-down order, but I would hope we could change the GlobalISel > combiner. > > Jay. > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 15:09, Dominik Montada via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm currently writing target specific combiners with GlobalISel. I have >> a case where a sub-node of a larger pattern also matches another, >> smaller combiner pattern. Because the combiner runs top-down, the >> smaller pattern is matched before the larger pattern has a chance to be >> matched. Do I have to teach my larger pattern to handle this case or is >> there a better way to do this? >> >> More importantly, are there any plans to improve this behavior? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dominik >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dominik Montada Email: dominik.montada at hightec-rt.com >> HighTec EDV-Systeme GmbH Phone: +49 681 92613 19 >> Europaallee 19 Fax: +49-681-92613-26 >> D-66113 Saarbrücken WWW: http://www.hightec-rt.com >> >> Managing Director: Vera Strothmann >> Register Court: Saarbrücken, HRB 10445, VAT ID: DE 138344222 >> >> This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >> you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately >> and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or >> distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. >> --- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
Daniel Sanders via llvm-dev
2021-Jan-20 18:50 UTC
[llvm-dev] [GlobalISel] Prioritizing long patterns in combiner over short ones
To be honest, hearing it was top-down surprised me too at first but I think I was remembering the algorithm I wanted to experiment with which required bottom-up. I asked Aditya about this and apparently it's to address the pathological case where we repeatedly do an entire pass only to simplify a single node of the MIR and slowly propagate that through the MIR. Another reason was because InstCombine is like this too. I think we can probably address a fair portion of the pathological case by controlling how we populate the work list. Instead of adding all MI's to it each time, we could filter out blocks that can't possibly match on this round. I'm thinking that a block only needs revisiting on the next pass if it contains a use of a register that was def'd by an instruction we changed on the current pass. Therefore the observer could track the vreg defs affected by a pass and build a list of MBB's to revisit. I think we'd have to revisit all the successors of those blocks too if the pass is running top-down (in case we make changes that allow further changes in the same pass) but if we changed it to bottom-up we wouldn't need that. This wouldn't help with large blocks but maybe we can find a similar scheme there.> On Jan 19, 2021, at 22:51, Amara Emerson <amara at apple.com> wrote: > > +Daniel. > > Daniel, do you remember if there was a strong reason for choosing to go top-down on the combiner? > > Amara > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Jay Foad via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >> I am really surprised that "the combiner runs top-down". Surely it's >> better to combine smaller sub-expressions before combining larger >> expressions? Or is there actually a good reason to keep the top-down >> order?? >> >> DAGCombiner also runs mostly top-down (but it can also add nodes to >> the worklist in a bottom-up direction for certain cases). The top-down >> order causes problems when you have deep expressions trees that could >> be simplified away to nothing. Outer combines see these subexpression >> unsimplified. They can use recursive helper functions like >> computeKnownBits to try to analyse the unsimplified expression, but >> the recursive helper functions typically have a max recursion depth of >> 6. which is easy to hit. >> >> DAGCombiner is so embedded now that it is hard to change the basic >> top-down order, but I would hope we could change the GlobalISel >> combiner. >> >> Jay. >> >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 15:09, Dominik Montada via llvm-dev >> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm currently writing target specific combiners with GlobalISel. I have >>> a case where a sub-node of a larger pattern also matches another, >>> smaller combiner pattern. Because the combiner runs top-down, the >>> smaller pattern is matched before the larger pattern has a chance to be >>> matched. Do I have to teach my larger pattern to handle this case or is >>> there a better way to do this? >>> >>> More importantly, are there any plans to improve this behavior? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dominik >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dominik Montada Email: dominik.montada at hightec-rt.com >>> HighTec EDV-Systeme GmbH Phone: +49 681 92613 19 >>> Europaallee 19 Fax: +49-681-92613-26 >>> D-66113 Saarbrücken WWW: http://www.hightec-rt.com >>> >>> Managing Director: Vera Strothmann >>> Register Court: Saarbrücken, HRB 10445, VAT ID: DE 138344222 >>> >>> This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >>> you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately >>> and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or >>> distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. >>> --- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LLVM Developers mailing list >>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >