Ondrej Sykora via llvm-dev
2020-Jan-16 17:32 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Implementing the BHive methodology in llvm-exegesis
Hi all, In a recent IISWC paper <http://groups.csail.mit.edu/commit/papers/19/ithemal-measurement.pdf>, we've proposed BHive - a new methodology for benchmarking arbitrary basic blocks that has several advantages over the one currently used in llvm-exegesis. In particular, the new methodology: - automatically handles memory accesses in the basic block, without the need to manually annotate live-ins, - maps all memory addresses accessed by the basic block to the same page, significantly reducing the probability of cache misses during benchmarking, - the benchmarked code runs in a separate process, reducing risks of compromising the monitor process memory, - computes the throughput in a way that subtracts away the effects of the scaffolding code. A possible challenge is increased complexity of the code: BHive uses a separate process to run the benchmarked basic block and changes memory mapping of the process to ensure that all memory accesses lead to the same page. Most operating systems have the necessary APIs, but these may differ significantly. In particular, the Windows API for memory mapping and process creation/control is very different from the Unix world. Initially, we might be able to support the new methodology only on Linux and Unix-like systems. Before we start the implementation, we would like to collect feedback on the proposed design: - We're planning to implement the methodology as a new implementation of BenchmarkRunner::FunctionExecutor that will exist alongside the current runner. The existing functionality will be preserved, and the user will be able to select the benchmark runner using a command-line flag. - We're considering using the LLDB API to control the execution of the benchmarking process in a platform-independent way. You can find a more detailed proposal here <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z6sYes0jBRwHUkUZmI2JieDZZBm-HHhAzHlKJOFLLtU/edit#>. A stand-alone Linux implementation of the methodology used in the paper is available on GitHub <https://github.com/ithemal/timing-harness>. Comments and suggestions are most welcome! Ondrej and Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200116/32c003ab/attachment.html>
Clement Courbet via llvm-dev
2020-Jan-17 10:46 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Implementing the BHive methodology in llvm-exegesis
Hi Ondrej, Tom, This is very exciting. We're not doing a very good job on memory instructions right now, it would be really cool to be able to measure them better. Comments inline. On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:32 PM Ondrej Sykora via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> In a recent IISWC paper > <http://groups.csail.mit.edu/commit/papers/19/ithemal-measurement.pdf>, > we've proposed BHive - a new methodology for benchmarking arbitrary basic > blocks that has several advantages over the one currently used in > llvm-exegesis. In particular, the new methodology: > - automatically handles memory accesses in the basic block, without the > need to manually annotate live-ins, > - maps all memory addresses accessed by the basic block to the same page, > significantly reducing the probability of cache misses during benchmarking, > - the benchmarked code runs in a separate process, reducing risks of > compromising the monitor process memory, > - computes the throughput in a way that subtracts away the effects of the > scaffolding code. >I've never actually seen a case where the scaffolding code had much influence on the results (at least on X86), especially in loop mode. However, I can see some value in snippet mode (not generated code mode): this allows the snippet code to exhaust all available registers and still be measurable.> A possible challenge is increased complexity of the code: BHive uses a > separate process to run the benchmarked basic block and changes memory > mapping of the process to ensure that all memory accesses lead to the same > page. Most operating systems have the necessary APIs, but these may differ > significantly. In particular, the Windows API for memory mapping and > process creation/control is very different from the Unix world. Initially, > we might be able to support the new methodology only on Linux and Unix-like > systems. >Though I think it's fine to have linux only as an initial implementation, I think there should be a clear plan to support windows: there are people in the LLVM community who are using llvm-exegesis on windows (e.g. folks at Sony). Note that you might be able to reuse some code in LLVM: compiler-rt already has an abstraction layer in "WindowsMMap.c" on top of MapViewOfFile.> Before we start the implementation, we would like to collect feedback on > the proposed design: > - We're planning to implement the methodology as a new implementation of > BenchmarkRunner::FunctionExecutor that will exist alongside the current > runner. The existing functionality will be preserved, and the user will be > able to select the benchmark runner using a command-line flag. >LGTM.> - We're considering using the LLDB API to control the execution of the > benchmarking process in a platform-independent way. >I think it's a great idea to avoid introducing any other external dependencies. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200117/7c8ddcfb/attachment.html>
Ondrej Sykora via llvm-dev
2020-Jan-27 12:21 UTC
[llvm-dev] [RFC] Implementing the BHive methodology in llvm-exegesis
Hi Clement, thanks for the feedback! On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:47 AM Clement Courbet <courbet at google.com> wrote:> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:32 PM Ondrej Sykora via llvm-dev < > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > >> In a recent IISWC paper >> <http://groups.csail.mit.edu/commit/papers/19/ithemal-measurement.pdf>, >> we've proposed BHive - a new methodology for benchmarking arbitrary basic >> blocks that has several advantages over the one currently used in >> llvm-exegesis. In particular, the new methodology: >> - automatically handles memory accesses in the basic block, without the >> need to manually annotate live-ins, >> - maps all memory addresses accessed by the basic block to the same page, >> significantly reducing the probability of cache misses during benchmarking, >> - the benchmarked code runs in a separate process, reducing risks of >> compromising the monitor process memory, >> - computes the throughput in a way that subtracts away the effects of the >> scaffolding code. >> > > I've never actually seen a case where the scaffolding code had much > influence on the results (at least on X86), especially in loop mode. > However, I can see some value in snippet mode (not generated code mode): > this allows the snippet code to exhaust all available registers and still > be measurable. >Yes, our main goal is benchmarking arbitrary basic blocks, where we do not control the register allocation.> A possible challenge is increased complexity of the code: BHive uses a >> separate process to run the benchmarked basic block and changes memory >> mapping of the process to ensure that all memory accesses lead to the same >> page. Most operating systems have the necessary APIs, but these may differ >> significantly. In particular, the Windows API for memory mapping and >> process creation/control is very different from the Unix world. Initially, >> we might be able to support the new methodology only on Linux and Unix-like >> systems. >> > > Though I think it's fine to have linux only as an initial implementation, > I think there should be a clear plan to support windows: there are people > in the LLVM community who are using llvm-exegesis on windows (e.g. folks at > Sony). Note that you might be able to reuse some code in LLVM: compiler-rt > already has an abstraction layer in "WindowsMMap.c" on top of MapViewOfFile. >Thanks for the pointers! That said, replacing mmap is relatively straightforward. The difficult part is replacing munmap, which does not have a direct equivalent on Windows and you need to query the system for all mapped blocks, and then unmap them one by one. This is a very specific functionality, and I'd be surprised if someone implemented that.> Before we start the implementation, we would like to collect feedback on >> the proposed design: >> - We're planning to implement the methodology as a new implementation of >> BenchmarkRunner::FunctionExecutor that will exist alongside the current >> runner. The existing functionality will be preserved, and the user will be >> able to select the benchmark runner using a command-line flag. >> > > LGTM. > > >> - We're considering using the LLDB API to control the execution of the >> benchmarking process in a platform-independent way. >> > > I think it's a great idea to avoid introducing any other external > dependencies. >-- Ondrej -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200127/8fa186c7/attachment.html>