llvm dev - Jun 2014 - [LLVMdev] [cfe-dev] [ADVERTISEMENT] open positions in Apple's Swift compiler team

On 06/11/14 08:39 PM, Chandler Carruth wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Ted Kremenek <kremenek at apple.com 
> <mailto:kremenek at apple.com>> wrote:
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>     On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:36 PM, C. Bergström
>     <cbergstrom at pathscale.com <mailto:cbergstrom at
pathscale.com>> wrote:
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>     > On 06/11/14 06:58 AM, Ted Kremenek wrote:
>     >> ** NOTE: This is a compiler job announcement. **
>     >>
>     >> The Apple Source Languages team is looking for exceptional
>     engineers to work on the Swift programming language:
>     > Maybe this has been asked already and I missed it - Will Swift
>     be open source?
>
>     At this time, we honestly don't know the answer yet to that
question.
>
>
> Ted, we've routinely pushed back strongly against job postings for 
> compiler jobs that aren't specifically working on LLVM, Clang, or some 
> other part of the LLVM project.
>
> If Swift ends up open source, and if it ends up as part of the LLVM 
> project (neither of which seem clear as you say), only then would it 
> seem appropriate to send this kind of job ad email to these lists.
>
> This is the second off-topic job posting in the last few weeks, so I'm 
> particularly sensitive. I really don't want the lists to become 
> cluttered here.
In the past myself and others have posted clang related jobs which 
aren't open source. I don't think that should be a strict requirement 
and sorry for the noise my question brought up.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM, "C. Bergström" <cbergstrom at
pathscale.com>
wrote:
> In the past myself and others have posted clang related jobs which
aren't
> open source. I don't think that should be a strict requirement and
sorry
> for the noise my question brought up.

Again, a Clang related job would be fine. This is a Swift related job, and
Swift isn't yet part of LLVM (and it isn't even clear whether it will
be).
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On 06/11/14 10:11 PM, Chandler Carruth wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:07 PM, "C. Bergström" 
> <cbergstrom at pathscale.com <mailto:cbergstrom at
pathscale.com>> wrote:
>
>     In the past myself and others have posted clang related jobs which
>     aren't open source. I don't think that should be a strict
>     requirement and sorry for the noise my question brought up.
>
>
> Again, a Clang related job would be fine. This is a Swift related job, 
> and Swift isn't yet part of LLVM (and it isn't even clear whether
it
> will be).
You're splitting hairs - It's clear to me in reading what has been 
posting publicly that Swift is using the LLVM/Clang infrastructure. I 
can find a link if it really makes a difference.