ustermann78@web.de
2014-Sep-26 07:46 UTC
[libvirt-users] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
hello,
if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see
an additional libvirt thread and also some open files:
pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd`
libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}]
libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094
/var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log
libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4
/proc/xen/privcmd
libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket
libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe
if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the
additional thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same.
if i start the transient guest domain again, i observe an increase in the number
of libvirt threads ans also in the list of openfiles:
[root@localhost libxl]# pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd`
libvirtd───12*[{libvirtd}]
libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 13783 1052094
/var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log
libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4
/proc/xen/privcmd
libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket
libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 32w REG 253,0 13783 1052094
/var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log
libvirtd 3016 root 33r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 34w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 35u REG 0,37 0 4
/proc/xen/privcmd
libvirtd 3016 root 36u unix 0xffff8807d398bb80 0t0 129040 socket
libvirtd 3016 root 37r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 38w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 39r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 40w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 41r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe
libvirtd 3016 root 42w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe
if i destroy the doamin again and define them via "virsh define
abcd.xml" and start them then via "virsh start abcd", the number
of libvirtd threads don´t increase again and also the number of open files is
the same.
My question: is it normal that for transient guest domains the created libvirtd
thread sill exists and also the open files after i destroy the doamin? or is it
bug?
thanks
max
Michal Privoznik
2014-Sep-26 09:21 UTC
Re: [libvirt-users] [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
On 26.09.2014 09:46, ustermann78@web.de wrote:> hello, > > if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see an additional libvirt thread and also some open files: > > pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] > > libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > > if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the additional thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same. > if i start the transient guest domain again, i observe an increase in the number of libvirt threads ans also in the list of openfiles: > > [root@localhost libxl]# pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───12*[{libvirtd}] > > libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 13783 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 32w REG 253,0 13783 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 33r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 34w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 35u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 36u unix 0xffff8807d398bb80 0t0 129040 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 37r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 38w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 39r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 40w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 41r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 42w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe > > if i destroy the doamin again and define them via "virsh define abcd.xml" and start them then via "virsh start abcd", the number of libvirtd threads don´t increase again and also the number of open files is the same. > > My question: is it normal that for transient guest domains the created libvirtd thread sill exists and also the open files after i destroy the doamin? or is it bug?The thread is created as a result of this commit: commit 03b3f8940af1a3179b7d5e19b25f54290bde10e0 Author: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> AuthorDate: Fri Jan 31 23:06:35 2014 -0700 Commit: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> CommitDate: Thu Feb 6 10:17:58 2014 -0700 libxl: handle domain shutdown events in a thread Handling the domain shutdown event within the event handler seems a bit unfair to libxl's event machinery. Domain "shutdown" could take considerable time. E.g. if the shutdown reason is reboot, the domain must be reaped and then started again. Spawn a shutdown handler thread to do this work, allowing libxl's event machinery to go about its business. Signed-off-by: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> Which was then modified by 0a840e23 (pure code movement). The thing is, libvirt listens on events from hypervisors. And some actions that are taken subsequently may take ages to finish. However, the events are executed single threaded, so they serialize effectively. And for the long lasting actions (like shutdown, in fact in libxl shutdown only) a new thread is spawned so the event loop is not burdened for too long. The thread is created with 'detach-state' attribute so once the shutdown is handled the thread should just disappear. Michal
ustermann78@web.de
2014-Sep-26 10:21 UTC
Re: [libvirt-users] [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
Hi Michal, thank you for your answer. so if i understand that correctly, no matter if i shutdown or destroy the domain and no matter if it is a transient or an persistent vm, the thread should disappear, right? in my case they still exist, also an hour after i destroy the domain (and don´t start any new one). i use libvirt-1.1.35 on fedora core 20, for information. all the best max Gesendet: Freitag, 26. September 2014 um 11:21 Uhr Von: "Michal Privoznik" <mprivozn@redhat.com> An: ustermann78@web.de, libvir-list@redhat.com, libvirt-users@redhat.com Betreff: Re: [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug? On 26.09.2014 09:46, ustermann78@web.de wrote:> hello, > > if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see an additional libvirt thread and also some open files: > > pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] > > libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > > if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the additional thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same. > if i start the transient guest domain again, i observe an increase in the number of libvirt threads ans also in the list of openfiles: > > [root@localhost libxl]# pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───12*[{libvirtd}] > > libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 13783 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 32w REG 253,0 13783 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 33r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 34w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129039 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 35u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 36u unix 0xffff8807d398bb80 0t0 129040 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 37r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 38w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129042 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 39r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 40w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129043 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 41r FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 42w FIFO 0,8 0t0 129044 pipe > > if i destroy the doamin again and define them via "virsh define abcd.xml" and start them then via "virsh start abcd", the number of libvirtd threads don´t increase again and also the number of open files is the same. > > My question: is it normal that for transient guest domains the created libvirtd thread sill exists and also the open files after i destroy the doamin? or is it bug?The thread is created as a result of this commit: commit 03b3f8940af1a3179b7d5e19b25f54290bde10e0 Author: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> AuthorDate: Fri Jan 31 23:06:35 2014 -0700 Commit: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> CommitDate: Thu Feb 6 10:17:58 2014 -0700 libxl: handle domain shutdown events in a thread Handling the domain shutdown event within the event handler seems a bit unfair to libxl's event machinery. Domain "shutdown" could take considerable time. E.g. if the shutdown reason is reboot, the domain must be reaped and then started again. Spawn a shutdown handler thread to do this work, allowing libxl's event machinery to go about its business. Signed-off-by: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com> Which was then modified by 0a840e23 (pure code movement). The thing is, libvirt listens on events from hypervisors. And some actions that are taken subsequently may take ages to finish. However, the events are executed single threaded, so they serialize effectively. And for the long lasting actions (like shutdown, in fact in libxl shutdown only) a new thread is spawned so the event loop is not burdened for too long. The thread is created with 'detach-state' attribute so once the shutdown is handled the thread should just disappear. Michal
Jim Fehlig
2014-Oct-01 00:44 UTC
[libvirt-users] [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
ustermann78 at web.de wrote:> hello, > > if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see an additional libvirt thread and also some open files: > > pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd???11*[{libvirtd}] > > libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094 /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log > libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd > libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket > libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe > > if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the additional thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same. >I don't see this behavior with current libvirt git master # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` libvirtd???10*[{libvirtd}] # virsh create ./test.xml Domain test created from ./test.xml # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` libvirtd???11*[{libvirtd}] # virsh destroy test Domain test destroyed # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` libvirtd???10*[{libvirtd}] All file descriptors opened when the domain was created were closed as well. What version of libvirt are you using? Regards, Jim
web2
2014-Oct-01 07:55 UTC
Re: [libvirt-users] [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
Hi Jim, i use libvirt 1.1.3.5 on fedora core 20, the vm´s i startet are xen-vm´s. i also take a look on libvirt 1.1.2 on an openSuSE 13.1 und also on libvirt 1.0.2 on an OpenSuSE 12.3 and i didn´t see threads that are created and not closed . But on the openSuSE-Systems the vm´s are KVM/qemu. on the fedora-system i will attach gdb to the libvirtd-process, and hope to see what´s doing on. all the best max ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht----------------- Von: "Jim Fehlig" jfehlig@suse.com An: ustermann78@web.de Kopie: libvir-list@redhat.com, libvirt-users@redhat.com Datum: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:44:17 -0600 -------------------------------------------------> ustermann78@web.de wrote: >> hello, >> >> if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see an >> additional libvirt thread and also some open files: >> >> pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` >> libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] >> >> libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094 >> /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log >> libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd >> libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket >> libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe >> >> if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the additional >> thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same. >> > > I don't see this behavior with current libvirt git master > > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───10*[{libvirtd}] > # virsh create ./test.xml > Domain test created from ./test.xml > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] > # virsh destroy test > Domain test destroyed > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───10*[{libvirtd}] > > All file descriptors opened when the domain was created were closed as well. > > What version of libvirt are you using? > > Regards, > Jim > >--
web2
2014-Oct-01 09:01 UTC
Re: [libvirt-users] [libvirt] increase number of libvirt threads by starting tansient guest doamin - is it a bug?
Hi, if i test the restore/destroy of an KVM/QEMU vm on the same system (fedora core 20 libvirtd 1.1.3.5), i can confirm what you say. there are no threads which are created and then not closed! so my problem/observation affects the interaction of libvirtd/xen. all the best max ----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht----------------- Von: "Jim Fehlig" jfehlig@suse.com An: ustermann78@web.de Kopie: libvir-list@redhat.com, libvirt-users@redhat.com Datum: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:44:17 -0600 -------------------------------------------------> ustermann78@web.de wrote: >> hello, >> >> if i start a transient guest doamin via "virsh create abcd.xml" i see an >> additional libvirt thread and also some open files: >> >> pstree -h `pgrep libvirtd` >> libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] >> >> libvirtd 3016 root 21w REG 253,0 6044 1052094 >> /var/log/libvirt/libxl/abcd.log >> libvirtd 3016 root 22r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 23w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126124 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 24u REG 0,37 0 4 /proc/xen/privcmd >> libvirtd 3016 root 25u unix 0xffff8807d2c3ad80 0t0 126125 socket >> libvirtd 3016 root 26r FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 27w FIFO 0,8 0t0 126127 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 28r FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 29w FIFO 0,8 0t0 124783 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 30r FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe >> libvirtd 3016 root 31w FIFO 0,8 0t0 127140 pipe >> >> if i destroy these vm via "virsh destroy abcd", i see that the additional >> thread still exists and also the list of openfiles is the same. >> > > I don't see this behavior with current libvirt git master > > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───10*[{libvirtd}] > # virsh create ./test.xml > Domain test created from ./test.xml > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───11*[{libvirtd}] > # virsh destroy test > Domain test destroyed > # pstree `pgrep libvirtd` > libvirtd───10*[{libvirtd}] > > All file descriptors opened when the domain was created were closed as well. > > What version of libvirt are you using? > > Regards, > Jim > >--
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