Hello Sreram, AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic appropriately. You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:> Hi > > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single > box. There is no separate router. > > I have a ''cvs update'' going on for a rather large repository. > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving > higher priority to HTTP traffic. > > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? > > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data. > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem > > In freebsd, I could use ''ipfw pipes'' to control incoming traffic too.. > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux? > > Regards > > Thanks in Advance!-- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hi I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single box. There is no separate router. I have a ''cvs update'' going on for a rather large repository. Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving higher priority to HTTP traffic. Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data. I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem In freebsd, I could use ''ipfw pipes'' to control incoming traffic too.. Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux? Regards Thanks in Advance! -- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:> Hello Sreram, > > AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic > appropriately. > > You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. >Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant control.> > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single > > box. There is no separate router. > > > > I have a ''cvs update'' going on for a rather large repository. > > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS > > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving > > higher priority to HTTP traffic. > > > > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? > > > > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about > > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data. > > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem > > > > In freebsd, I could use ''ipfw pipes'' to control incoming traffic too.. > > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux? > > > > Regards > > > > Thanks in Advance! > -- > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > \___________________________________/ >-- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, S Mohan wrote:> Let us say eth0 is connected the Internet and eth1 to the local LAN. Then > shaping outgoing traffic on eth1 is equivalent to throttling incoming on > eth0. Another alternative is to use the IMQ device. I recommend the first > method.The problem is that I dont have a separate router. I have a single machine (a laptop), which is connected to the internet with a 128kbps connection. I dont know how to do incoming traffic shaping, when only one machine is present, which is typical in home usage scenarios.> -----Original Message----- > From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl]On > Behalf Of K S Sreeram > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:01 PM > To: lartc > Subject: Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello Sreram, > > > > AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. > > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic > > appropriately. > > > > You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. > > > > Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape > incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant > control. > > > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single > > > box. There is no separate router. > > > > > > I have a ''cvs update'' going on for a rather large repository. > > > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS > > > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving > > > higher priority to HTTP traffic. > > > > > > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? > > > > > > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about > > > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data. > > > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem > > > > > > In freebsd, I could use ''ipfw pipes'' to control incoming traffic too.. > > > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Thanks in Advance! > > -- > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) > > /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ > > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > > \___________________________________/ > > > -- > K S Sreeram > Director of Research > Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. > > > _______________________________________________ > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ >-- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
> Message: 11 > Subject: RE: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data > From: K S Sreeram <sreeram@tachyontech.net> > To: LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > Date: 24 Jun 2003 09:18:18 +0530 > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, S Mohan wrote: > > Let us say eth0 is connected the Internet and eth1 to the local LAN. Then > > shaping outgoing traffic on eth1 is equivalent to throttling incoming on > > eth0. Another alternative is to use the IMQ device. I recommend the first > > method. >Hi all Mohan Could you explain me why do you thinks that''s is better to use throttling incoming on eth0 instead of the use of IMQ??? any particular technical explanation??? I''m asking cause i''m newbie and i''ve been studying LARTC and IPTABLES.( believe , very hard stuff..80)) thanx''s in advanced> The problem is that I dont have a separate router. I have a single > machine (a laptop), which is connected to the internet with a 128kbps > connection. > > I dont know how to do incoming traffic shaping, when only one machine is > present, which is typical in home usage scenarios. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl [mailto:lartc-admin@mailman.ds9a.nl]On > > Behalf Of K S Sreeram > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:01 PM > > To: lartc > > Subject: Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > Hello Sreram, > > > > > > AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. > > > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic > > > appropriately. > > > > > > You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. > > > > > > > Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape > > incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant > > control. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single > > > > box. There is no separate router. > > > > > > > > I have a ''cvs update'' going on for a rather large repository. > > > > Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS > > > > traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving > > > > higher priority to HTTP traffic. > > > > > > > > Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? > > > > > > > > I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about > > > > (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data. > > > > I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem > > > > > > > > In freebsd, I could use ''ipfw pipes'' to control incoming traffic too.. > > > > Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance! > > > -- > > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It''s all about CHOICE -< ) > > > /~\ __ trevor@clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ > > > | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | > > > |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| > > > \___________________________________/ > > > > > -- > > K S Sreeram > > Director of Research > > Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/ > >-- Paulo Ricardo Bruck - consultor Contato Global Solutions tel 011 5646-7977 011 5521-8049 cel 011 9235-4327 R Bourbom, 56 04663-160 São Paulo SP
On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote: > > Hello Sreram, > > > > AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. > > This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic > > appropriately. > > > > You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. > > Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape > incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant > control.Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers. Or a more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB. Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Stef, Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers? Stef Coene wrote:> On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote: > >>On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote: >> >>>Hello Sreram, >>> >>> AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. >>>This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic >>>appropriately. >>> >>> You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. >> >>Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape >>incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant >>control. > > Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers. Or a more > complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB. > > Stef >-- Bernard Robbins Systems Support Specialist VLM International, Inc. ___________________________________________ [I@myself src]# make me --with-more_time --with-more_money 90% of being smart is knowing what you''re dumb at. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Hi I would strongly recommend going with IMQ + HTB. I just installed it yesterday. It just works beautifully. It gives you the full flexibility in using HTB SFQ etc, to shape incoming traffic. Makes me wonder... How come IMQ is not yet part of the standard kernel? Is it going to be coming in 2.4.22? Thanks & Regards On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 03:19, Bernard Robbins wrote:> Stef, > > Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers? > > Stef Coene wrote: > > On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote: > > > >>On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote: > >> > >>>Hello Sreram, > >>> > >>> AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end. > >>>This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic > >>>appropriately. > >>> > >>> You can''t possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end. > >> > >>Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape > >>incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP''s end, which I cant > >>control. > > > > Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers. Or a more > > complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB. > > > > Stef > > > > -- > > > Bernard Robbins > Systems Support Specialist > VLM International, Inc. > ___________________________________________ > [I@myself src]# make me --with-more_time --with-more_money > 90% of being smart is knowing what you''re dumb at. > > _______________________________________________ > LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl > http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/-- K S Sreeram Director of Research Tachyon Technologies Pvt. Ltd. _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
Bernard Robbins wrote:> Stef, > > Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers? > >> Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers. Or a >> more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB. >> >> Stef >I could use this information also.. TIA, Steve _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/
On Monday 30 June 2003 20:25, Steve Wright wrote:> Bernard Robbins wrote: > > Stef, > > > > Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers? > > > >> Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers. Or a > >> more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB. > >> > >> Stef > > I could use this information also..There is some information in the lartc howto about policers. That''s all I have. For imq, you can search the lartc archives. Stef -- stef.coene@docum.org "Using Linux as bandwidth manager" http://www.docum.org/ #lartc @ irc.oftc.net _______________________________________________ LARTC mailing list / LARTC@mailman.ds9a.nl http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc HOWTO: http://lartc.org/