I''m trying to do QoS and NAT at the same time...The router box is needing to use some of the bandwidth itself, but I don''t want it to take more than 10% of the bandwidth...I''m looking at the howto, but I''m not sure how to make it choke the local box itself. If needed, I can have another box doing the work that I''ve got loaded on the router, but would like to keep it all in one. Thanks Ben Konosky bkonosky@texas.net