Ben Hutchings
2020-Jul-28 01:36 UTC
[klibc] [PATCH] Add syscall wrappers required by libkeyutils
On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 05:46 -0700, hpa at zytor.com wrote:> On July 27, 2020 2:43:36 AM PDT, Christian Eggers <ceggers at arri.de> wrote: > > On Saturday, 25 July 2020, 23:36:33 CEST, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 08:37 +0200, Christian Eggers wrote: > > > > ... > > > > libkeyutils usually invokes syscall() directly. As syscall() is not > > > > provided by klibc, libkeyutils has to be slightly modified for using the > > > > klibc wrappers. > > > > > > Wouldn't it be more useful for klibc to implement syscall() then? > > > > I hope that somebody else could respond to this question as I am likely not > > skilled enough to answer this.[...]> syscall(3) is not implemented by design, because it is silently > broken on many architectures (mainly 32-bit ones.)I understand that it's not portable in general, as there are many architecture-specific quirks in the system call ABI. But where there are other established libraries using it, I assume they're already dealing with those quirks. Also, the newer system calls that are likely to be called this way are less quirky, aren't they? I think that if we can *cheaply* implement a glibc API that allows more software to build and run on klibc with fewer changes, then we should. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. - Robert Coveyou -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <https://lists.zytor.com/archives/klibc/attachments/20200728/89607ba8/attachment.sig>
hpa at zytor.com
2020-Jul-28 02:20 UTC
[klibc] [PATCH] Add syscall wrappers required by libkeyutils
On July 27, 2020 6:36:27 PM PDT, Ben Hutchings <ben at decadent.org.uk> wrote:>On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 05:46 -0700, hpa at zytor.com wrote: >> On July 27, 2020 2:43:36 AM PDT, Christian Eggers <ceggers at arri.de> >wrote: >> > On Saturday, 25 July 2020, 23:36:33 CEST, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > > On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 08:37 +0200, Christian Eggers wrote: >> > > > ... >> > > > libkeyutils usually invokes syscall() directly. As syscall() is >not >> > > > provided by klibc, libkeyutils has to be slightly modified for >using the >> > > > klibc wrappers. >> > > >> > > Wouldn't it be more useful for klibc to implement syscall() then? >> > >> > I hope that somebody else could respond to this question as I am >likely not >> > skilled enough to answer this. >[...] >> syscall(3) is not implemented by design, because it is silently >> broken on many architectures (mainly 32-bit ones.) > >I understand that it's not portable in general, as there are many >architecture-specific quirks in the system call ABI. But where there >are other established libraries using it, I assume they're already >dealing with those quirks. Also, the newer system calls that are >likely to be called this way are less quirky, aren't they? > >I think that if we can *cheaply* implement a glibc API that allows more >software to build and run on klibc with fewer changes, then we should. > >Ben.I'm not so sure they have dealt with it in the sense of having it work on all architectures. *Most* of the problems are related to the shifting the arguments by one, which can cause a bunch of problems, especially if it means the arguments spill to memory. However, I have absolutely no idea how to correctly implement syscall(3) on s390 without a full table. It is of course possible to implement using stdarg.h and a big switch statement, but that is anything but cheap. Now, thinking about it, it *might* be possible to implement some of this using varadic macros. Let me play around with it a little bit. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
H. Peter Anvin
2020-Jul-28 03:11 UTC
[klibc] [PATCH] Add syscall wrappers required by libkeyutils
On 2020-07-27 19:20, hpa at zytor.com wrote:> > I'm not so sure they have dealt with it in the sense of having it work on all architectures. *Most* of the problems are related to the shifting the arguments by one, which can cause a bunch of problems, especially if it means the arguments spill to memory. However, I have absolutely no idea how to correctly implement syscall(3) on s390 without a full table. > > It is of course possible to implement using stdarg.h and a big switch statement, but that is anything but cheap. > > Now, thinking about it, it *might* be possible to implement some of this using varadic macros. Let me play around with it a little bit. >This might actually work: /* * Not prototyped on purpose, as (...) isn't a valid prototype. * __extension__ prevents erroring out due to lack of prototype. */ __extension__ extern long long ___syscall(); extern long ___syscall_num; #define syscall(n, ...) \ (___syscall_num = (n), ___syscall(__VA_ARGS__)) ... then have ___syscall() get the system call number from the memory variable ___syscall_num (If klibc were multithreaded it would have to be a thread-local variable, of course) and call the common syscall handler code. Interestingly enough, on i386 the prototypeless function appears to be called with the regparm convention, not the varadic convention -- not a problem, just a matter of which handler to call. Still not entirely sure what to do with s390, nor have I audited all the other architectures but perhaps there are ways around that. -hpa
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