I''ve just run mspec under the Languages\Ruby\Tests\mspec\rubyspec\core 
folder against MRI 1.9.2p0 (which is checked into the ironlanguages-main 
git repo), and it crashes with a segfault in putc_spec.rb
I then tried running against MRI 1.9.2p290 and I get the following:
       1518 files, 9618 examples, 28229 expectations, 339 failures, 256 
errors
Running against the dev build of IronRuby stalls running tests in the 
array subfolder, so I can''t even complete the run.
I''d like to try fixing some of the spec failures that IronRuby has, but
these results raise several questions:
1. Are the specs in the mspec\rubyspec folder up to date? How would 
someone find this out and/or update them?
  - Also, I added a few specs the other day for the marshalling code. Do 
these need to somehow get pushed upstream into some "master" rubyspec 
repository??
2. Shouldn''t we check the latest build of MRI into the ironlangauges 
git-repo? Either the latest 1.9.2 or the just-released 1.9.3 instead?
3. Isn''t MRI the "definitive" ruby? How can the specs be
failing against
MRI?
4. If I update some IronRuby code to pass the specs, how do I know that 
the specs are even correct?
Thanks, Orion
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1) Partly. We are in progress of updating them. Since we''ve added more
specs and sometimes corrected existing ones this needs to be done with care. The
current progress is captured here:
https://gist.github.com/1159998
After we are done with this process of bringing the specs up to date we can
submit a path to RubySpec containing the changed we made. The plan is also to
make the RubySpec dir a submodule so that merging with RubySpec is easier.
2) Or maybe we should just remove MRI completely? You can always use one on your
system. I need to check if we need CRuby for anything in the infrastructure.
3) Well, that would be a question for RubySpec maintainers. I found some specs
be failures Windows specific, which means the specs are not properly written.
Feel free to contribute to RubySpecs git repo - I bet they are happy to accept
fixes.
4) Well, you need to figure out if the behavior makes sense. If it
doesn''t feel free to file a bug on CRuby and let them decide if the
behavior is intentional or not. Then CRuby might get fixed, specs might get
fixed, or IronRuby might get fixed.
Which specs particularly are you working on? Is it marshal related?
Tomas
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Orion Edwards
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 1:19 PM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
Subject: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
I''ve just run mspec under the Languages\Ruby\Tests\mspec\rubyspec\core
folder against MRI 1.9.2p0 (which is checked into the ironlanguages-main git
repo), and it crashes with a segfault in putc_spec.rb
I then tried running against MRI 1.9.2p290 and I get the following:
       1518 files, 9618 examples, 28229 expectations, 339 failures, 256 errors
Running against the dev build of IronRuby stalls running tests in the array
subfolder, so I can''t even complete the run.
I''d like to try fixing some of the spec failures that IronRuby has, but
these results raise several questions:
1. Are the specs in the mspec\rubyspec folder up to date? How would someone find
this out and/or update them?
  - Also, I added a few specs the other day for the marshalling code. Do these
need to somehow get pushed upstream into some "master" rubyspec
repository??
2. Shouldn''t we check the latest build of MRI into the ironlangauges
git-repo? Either the latest 1.9.2 or the just-released 1.9.3 instead?
3. Isn''t MRI the "definitive" ruby? How can the specs be
failing against MRI?
4. If I update some IronRuby code to pass the specs, how do I know that the
specs are even correct?
Thanks, Orion
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Thanks for that.
After the code review comments about Exception#== I was running the 
Exception specs. 3 fail against ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-09) [i386-mingw32]
I don''t have access to a linux/mac system at work to check if they pass
on
non-windows platforms, but it doesn''t look like there''s
anything platform
related in those errors, so I''d doubt it.
Random comment:
It appears that there''s a lot more work to be done in IronRuby 
particularly relating to Errno and SystemCallErrors - I could do this 
work, but there''s a blocking problem:
 - Various bits of IronRuby core code call helper methods such as 
RubyExceptions.CreateEINVAL, RubyExceptions.CreateEEXIST, etc, etc. These 
are supposed to return Errno::EINVAL, but they can''t, because the Errno
classes are defined in IronRuby.Libraries and the RubyExceptions.CreateXYZ 
methods are defined in IronRuby.dll. We''d have to move the Errno stuff
out
of Libraries and into IronRuby.dll I think
From:   Tomas Matousek <Tomas.Matousek at microsoft.com>
To:     "ironruby-core at rubyforge.org" <ironruby-core at
rubyforge.org>
Date:   01/11/2011 10:16 a.m.
Subject:        Re: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
Sent by:        ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org
1) Partly. We are in progress of updating them. Since we?ve added more 
specs and sometimes corrected existing ones this needs to be done with 
care. The current progress is captured here:
 
https://gist.github.com/1159998
 
After we are done with this process of bringing the specs up to date we 
can submit a path to RubySpec containing the changed we made. The plan is 
also to make the RubySpec dir a submodule so that merging with RubySpec is 
easier.
 
2) Or maybe we should just remove MRI completely? You can always use one 
on your system. I need to check if we need CRuby for anything in the 
infrastructure.
 
3) Well, that would be a question for RubySpec maintainers. I found some 
specs be failures Windows specific, which means the specs are not properly 
written. Feel free to contribute to RubySpecs git repo ? I bet they are 
happy to accept fixes.
 
4) Well, you need to figure out if the behavior makes sense. If it doesn?t 
feel free to file a bug on CRuby and let them decide if the behavior is 
intentional or not. Then CRuby might get fixed, specs might get fixed, or 
IronRuby might get fixed.
 
 
Which specs particularly are you working on? Is it marshal related? 
 
Tomas
 
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [
mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Orion Edwards
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 1:19 PM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
Subject: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
 
I''ve just run mspec under the Languages\Ruby\Tests\mspec\rubyspec\core 
folder against MRI 1.9.2p0 (which is checked into the ironlanguages-main 
git repo), and it crashes with a segfault in putc_spec.rb 
I then tried running against MRI 1.9.2p290 and I get the following: 
       1518 files, 9618 examples, 28229 expectations, 339 failures, 256 
errors 
Running against the dev build of IronRuby stalls running tests in the 
array subfolder, so I can''t even complete the run. 
I''d like to try fixing some of the spec failures that IronRuby has, but
these results raise several questions: 
1. Are the specs in the mspec\rubyspec folder up to date? How would 
someone find this out and/or update them? 
  - Also, I added a few specs the other day for the marshalling code. Do 
these need to somehow get pushed upstream into some "master" rubyspec 
repository?? 
2. Shouldn''t we check the latest build of MRI into the ironlangauges 
git-repo? Either the latest 1.9.2 or the just-released 1.9.3 instead? 
3. Isn''t MRI the "definitive" ruby? How can the specs be
failing against
MRI? 
4. If I update some IronRuby code to pass the specs, how do I know that 
the specs are even correct? 
Thanks, Orion_______________________________________________
Ironruby-core mailing list
Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
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There is a lot of work to do around exceptions in general. I wouldn''t
start digging into it if I were you :). I''m thinking of some core
changes in how we map Ruby to .NET exceptions... it will take me some time to
get to it though. I would not worry about all these Errno exceptions for now
unless your application is blocked by some specific bug. Certainly not if a few
specs fail here and there (we have thousands of specs failing, which might be
more important to fix).
Time to file a bug on CRuby to get some input from MRI guys what they think the
behavior should really be if it doesn''t make sense. Or RubySpec guys if
the MRI behavior is reasonable.
Tomas
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Orion Edwards
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:40 PM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
Thanks for that.
After the code review comments about Exception#== I was running the Exception
specs. 3 fail against ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-09) [i386-mingw32]
I don''t have access to a linux/mac system at work to check if they pass
on non-windows platforms, but it doesn''t look like there''s
anything platform related in those errors, so I''d doubt it.
Random comment:
It appears that there''s a lot more work to be done in IronRuby
particularly relating to Errno and SystemCallErrors - I could do this work, but
there''s a blocking problem:
 - Various bits of IronRuby core code call helper methods such as
RubyExceptions.CreateEINVAL, RubyExceptions.CreateEEXIST, etc, etc. These are
supposed to return Errno::EINVAL, but they can''t, because the Errno
classes are defined in IronRuby.Libraries and the RubyExceptions.CreateXYZ
methods are defined in IronRuby.dll. We''d have to move the Errno stuff
out of Libraries and into IronRuby.dll I think
From:        Tomas Matousek <Tomas.Matousek at
microsoft.com<mailto:Tomas.Matousek at microsoft.com>>
To:        "ironruby-core at rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core at
rubyforge.org>" <ironruby-core at
rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core at rubyforge.org>>
Date:        01/11/2011 10:16 a.m.
Subject:        Re: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
Sent by:        ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org>
________________________________
1) Partly. We are in progress of updating them. Since we''ve added more
specs and sometimes corrected existing ones this needs to be done with care. The
current progress is captured here:
https://gist.github.com/1159998
After we are done with this process of bringing the specs up to date we can
submit a path to RubySpec containing the changed we made. The plan is also to
make the RubySpec dir a submodule so that merging with RubySpec is easier.
2) Or maybe we should just remove MRI completely? You can always use one on your
system. I need to check if we need CRuby for anything in the infrastructure.
3) Well, that would be a question for RubySpec maintainers. I found some specs
be failures Windows specific, which means the specs are not properly written.
Feel free to contribute to RubySpecs git repo - I bet they are happy to accept
fixes.
4) Well, you need to figure out if the behavior makes sense. If it
doesn''t feel free to file a bug on CRuby and let them decide if the
behavior is intentional or not. Then CRuby might get fixed, specs might get
fixed, or IronRuby might get fixed.
Which specs particularly are you working on? Is it marshal related?
Tomas
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org> [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Orion Edwards
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 1:19 PM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org<mailto:ironruby-core at rubyforge.org>
Subject: [Ironruby-core] RubySpecs
I''ve just run mspec under the Languages\Ruby\Tests\mspec\rubyspec\core
folder against MRI 1.9.2p0 (which is checked into the ironlanguages-main git
repo), and it crashes with a segfault in putc_spec.rb
I then tried running against MRI 1.9.2p290 and I get the following:
      1518 files, 9618 examples, 28229 expectations, 339 failures, 256 errors
Running against the dev build of IronRuby stalls running tests in the array
subfolder, so I can''t even complete the run.
I''d like to try fixing some of the spec failures that IronRuby has, but
these results raise several questions:
1. Are the specs in the mspec\rubyspec folder up to date? How would someone find
this out and/or update them?
 - Also, I added a few specs the other day for the marshalling code. Do these
need to somehow get pushed upstream into some "master" rubyspec
repository??
2. Shouldn''t we check the latest build of MRI into the ironlangauges
git-repo? Either the latest 1.9.2 or the just-released 1.9.3 instead?
3. Isn''t MRI the "definitive" ruby? How can the specs be
failing against MRI?
4. If I update some IronRuby code to pass the specs, how do I know that the
specs are even correct?
Thanks, Orion_______________________________________________
Ironruby-core mailing list
Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org<mailto:Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org>
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
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