This doesn''t solve the problem in any way, but Console2 (on SourceForge
gives you tabs and proper(-ish) cut and paste. I, too, long for the day when
conhost.exe is a real console. If I ever get asked, I will pass this request on
;)
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Meinrad Recheis
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:17 PM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] Feedback
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Orion Edwards<orion.edwards at
gmail.com> wrote:> I''ve previously (with IronRuby versions 0.5,0.6 and earlier
nightlies)
> tried to do various tasks using IronRuby, for 3 reasons:
> 1. Because ruby is a great language and I want to use it.
> 2. I believe IronRuby is especially valuable for fitting in with all
> the .NET ''business code'' around, and I hope any feedback
I can provide
> might be useful to you?
> 3. To promote IronRuby amongst my company and local community However,
> I''d always come up against unfixable blockers, and had to abandon
the
> effort.
> With 0.9 however, I''ve actually succeeded, and have built an
> automated-integration-testing setup (testing production code on
> dedicated
> machines) using IronRuby.
> I''d like to offer some feedback based on this:
> * First of all, congratulations on all the progress! Being able to
> actually use IronRuby on a real project has been really satisfying.
> You guys are awesome!
> * The main issue I now have with IronRuby at the moment is startup time.
> It takes around 4 seconds warm-starting iirb on my core2quad with 4
> gigs of RAM, and far far longer (some 30-odd seconds) cold starting on
> a lesser machine. I''ve ngen''ed all the IronRuby
dll''s on both machines.
> Anything you could do to reduce this time would make a huge impact
> (really, I''d be over the moon), and I''d gladly trade off
a bit of
> runtime speed if it was needed.
> * It also feels like parsing files (require ''blah.rb'',
or requiring
> lots of
> files) is a slow operation. I don''t have any objective data to
back
> this up, but it seems to fit, given that warm-starting just ir.exe
> takes approx 0.5 seconds instead of 4
> * On the plus side, being able to just distribute the 5 core
dll''s
> and omit the ruby standard library if needed is really great. One of
> the best things about IronRuby thus far has been that all I need to do
> to deploy it is copy a few files and presto.
> * I''m primarily using it for scripting rather than any actual
> computation so I''m not compute-bound, but my impression has been
that
> the current runtime-performance of IronRuby is great (the problem is
> "solved" as far as I''m concerned) As an aside: the win32
console is
> atrocious (which negatively impacts irb greatly). Please could someone
> at microsoft take a mac, run terminal.app, and go and beat the windows
> team over the head with it. You could substitute any linux distro for
> the mac if you don''t have one. To be clear, I don''t mean
powershell vs
> cmd.exe, I mean the actual display/renderer, which looks like it
> hasn''t changed since windows 3.1, and can''t even
copy/paste a
> multi-line block of text properly!
rofl. I think the windows team surely would have liked to make it better but I
am sure they weren''t given the time. someone should beat the
responsible manager over the head with it ;)
> Thanks for all the hard work, keep it up!
> Orion
>
>
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