Ironruby core - Aug 2008 - IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

Hi,

I was just reading this blog on www.infoq.com by Neal Ford on
Programming Languages and Platforms.

He is an experienced employee with Thoughtworks..

Here is the link...
http://www.infoq.com/interviews/Languages-Platforms-Neal-Ford

This paragraph from his blog/interview has attracted my attention...
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Within ThoughtWorks of Ruby, we are doing a lot of Ruby projects now and
we have clients coming in and asking us to do Ruby projects. We have
just released our first ever commercial piece of software which is
Mingle, which is this Agile project management tool that is written in
Ruby on Rails because we wanted it fast on the market, but it is
deployed on JRuby, because JRuby deployment scenario was much easier
than deploying it in the standard Ruby on Rails way, with hosted and
Mongrel clusters and all that stuff.

So we''ve got to take advantage of the best of both worlds,
we''ve got the
productivity and the power of Ruby on Rails, but we''ve got the
convenience of having deployed this thing on the Java platform. I think
that is something we are going to see more and more.
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This clearly applies to IronRuby too. Many would like to go the same
way. Productivity and Power of IronRuby on Rails and deployment with
IIS7 + Sql 2008 + MySql as well.

It would be nice if there is some information available about the
deployment scenario and the IronRuby Team suggestions for an effective
speed on .Net

Thanks
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Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

It would also be interesting to know what level of deployment support is 
offered to IronRuby with Visual Studio Tools (Visual Studio and Visual 
Web Developer )

IronRuby ( IIS7 ) + MySql would be more effective that''s what i feel. 
Best of both the world as you can say.

I am also keen to know if Sapphire Steel is on its way for a better 
deployment support with its IronRuby and Ruby on Steel IDE''s.
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> IronRuby ( IIS7 ) + MySql would be more effective that''s what i
feel.
> Best of both the world as you can say.
> 
As per one of the thread here (few months back, as answered by John 
Lam), few microsoft folks were already working on MySql adapter. I 
think, they should have progressed much better with this MySql adapter 
by now.
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Why is MySql so important? Why not Postgres or SQL Server?

Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially for Web
2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, Amazon, eBay,
Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing high-volume
properties.

Thanks,
-John


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> IronRuby ( IIS7 ) + MySql would be more effective that''s what i
feel.
> Best of both the world as you can say.
>
As per one of the thread here (few months back, as answered by John
Lam), few microsoft folks were already working on MySql adapter. I
think, they should have progressed much better with this MySql adapter
by now.
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2008/8/28 John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at
microsoft.com>:
> Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially for
Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, Amazon,
eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing high-volume
properties.
Doesn''t eBay use Oracle? Is this page outdated?
http://highscalability.com/ebay-architecture

IIRC MySpace uses SQL Server. Is that not big enough for you?

-- 
Seo Sanghyeon

Softmind Technology wrote:
> I am also keen to know if Sapphire Steel is on its way for a better 
> deployment support with its IronRuby and Ruby on Steel IDE''s.
We will update our IronRuby support but don''t expect any major
additions
until around the time of the launch of IronRuby 1.0.

best wishes
Huw

SapphireSteel Software
Ruby and Rails In Visual Studio
http://www.sapphiresteel.com

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John Lam (IRONRUBY) wrote:
> Why is MySql so important? Why not Postgres or SQL Server?
> 
> Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially 
> for Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, 
> Amazon, eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing 
> high-volume properties.
> 
> Thanks,
> -John
In my company, an electronic publishing organization, we are moving to 
MarkLogic, an XML Native database (or contentbase, as MarkLogic prefers 
calling it). After working with it for a few months, we are certainly 
not going back to any relational dbs, be it Oracle or SQL Server. With 
that in mind, John, would you please look at the thread called "IronRuby 
and MarkLogic" (last updated by me 32 days ago) when you have a chance 
and check out why John Messerly''s patch was not kept in the latest 
releases...thanks!

Meanwhile, I switched to using IronPython for my MarkLogic development 
since it works just fine...but it would be great if I could use 
IronRuby...
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:50:18AM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon
wrote:
> 2008/8/28 John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at microsoft.com>:
> > Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially
for Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, Amazon,
eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing high-volume
properties.
> 
> Doesn''t eBay use Oracle? Is this page outdated?
> http://highscalability.com/ebay-architecture
> 
> IIRC MySpace uses SQL Server. Is that not big enough for you?
Heh, Amazon uses an RDBMS.  There are services that are responsible
for speaking to the DB, but yes, http://www.amazon.com/ does hit a
database.  Ask me how I know :)
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2008/9/3 C.J. Adams-Collier <cjac at
colliertech.org>:
> Heh, Amazon uses an RDBMS.  There are services that are responsible
> for speaking to the DB, but yes, http://www.amazon.com/ does hit a
> database.  Ask me how I know :)
Which RDBMS? :)

-- 
Seo Sanghyeon

How do you know? :)

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:05 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier <cjac at
colliertech.org>wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 02:50:18AM +0900, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> > 2008/8/28 John Lam (IRONRUBY) <jflam at microsoft.com>:
> > > Even more to the point - why relational databases at all -
especially
> for Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google,
> Amazon, eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing
> high-volume properties.
> >
> > Doesn''t eBay use Oracle? Is this page outdated?
> > http://highscalability.com/ebay-architecture
> >
> > IIRC MySpace uses SQL Server. Is that not big enough for you?
>
> Heh, Amazon uses an RDBMS.  There are services that are responsible
> for speaking to the DB, but yes, http://www.amazon.com/ does hit a
> database.  Ask me how I know :)
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