Hi, DLR is nice, but what is still missing is "community". I think there is plenty of people trying DLR, but there is no good source for information except some blogs. What I am really missing is some community forum, where all the developers can look for solutions and discuss their problems. Now it looks those people are spread over the Internet and there is no place for discussion yet ... or maybe I am wrong and I just didn''t find it. Anyway if there is not such place, would be possible to make at least category on MSDN forums for DLR? PS: Sorry for asking this here, but this forum looks like the closest one to DLR topic :] -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
2008/2/28, Ales Sturala <lists at ruby-forum.com>:> Hi, > DLR is nice, but what is still missing is "community". I think there is > plenty of people trying DLR, but there is no good source for information > except some blogs. What I am really missing is some community forum, > where all the developers can look for solutions and discuss their > problems. Now it looks those people are spread over the Internet and > there is no place for discussion yet ... or maybe I am wrong and I just > didn''t find it.Eh, *this* list is a such forum? And IronPython list.> Anyway if there is not such place, would be possible to make at least > category on MSDN forums for DLR?I much prefer mailing lists to forums. -- Seo Sanghyeon
Hello!
i was thinking about same ("where to ask DLR specific questions") few
days
ago while reading DLR articles on Tomas Restrepo''s weblog (btw, thanks
for
good articles, Tomas... )
maybe it would be a good idea have separate DLR mailing list or forum (for
DLR specific language agnostic questions). But i am afraid that this is a
same sort of decision as if there should be separate codebase for DLR or
not.
I would prefer separate mailing lists and separate codebase, but I
understand that it is not easy decision.
thanks,
Slavo.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Sanghyeon Seo <sanxiyn at gmail.com>
wrote:
> 2008/2/28, Ales Sturala <lists at ruby-forum.com>:
> > Hi,
> > DLR is nice, but what is still missing is "community". I
think there is
> > plenty of people trying DLR, but there is no good source for
> information
> > except some blogs. What I am really missing is some community forum,
> > where all the developers can look for solutions and discuss their
> > problems. Now it looks those people are spread over the Internet and
> > there is no place for discussion yet ... or maybe I am wrong and I
just
> > didn''t find it.
>
> Eh, *this* list is a such forum? And IronPython list.
>
> > Anyway if there is not such place, would be possible to make at least
> > category on MSDN forums for DLR?
>
> I much prefer mailing lists to forums.
>
> --
> Seo Sanghyeon
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Sanghyeon Seo wrote:> 2008/2/28, Ales Sturala <lists at ruby-forum.com>: >> Hi, >> DLR is nice, but what is still missing is "community". I think there is >> plenty of people trying DLR, but there is no good source for information >> except some blogs. What I am really missing is some community forum, >> where all the developers can look for solutions and discuss their >> problems. Now it looks those people are spread over the Internet and >> there is no place for discussion yet ... or maybe I am wrong and I just >> didn''t find it. > > Eh, *this* list is a such forum? And IronPython list. > >> Anyway if there is not such place, would be possible to make at least >> category on MSDN forums for DLR? > > I much prefer mailing lists to forums.As you said, here it is about IronPhyton. Most of questions are what doesn''t work in IronPhyton, what works differently then expected, etc .. but not about building languages on DLR, using DLR AST and so on ... -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Yes, it is not an easy decision without knowing the what activity level to
expect. If there are not enough people active on the mailing list, it reduces
the value to the participants since their questions will not be answered
quickly. So specialized mailing lists are necessarily the right answer. A
separate codebase has significant disadvantages - if you want to find matching
versions of IronRuby or IronPython to see how they use the DLR, you will have a
hard time.
Do start using the IronRuby or IronPython mailing lists for DLR questions. If
the volume of DLR-specific questions goes up, that will make it easier to decide
to create a separate mailing list.
From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at
rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Slavo Furman
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:21 AM
To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] DLR - where is the community?
Hello!
i was thinking about same ("where to ask DLR specific questions") few
days ago while reading DLR articles on Tomas Restrepo''s weblog (btw,
thanks for good articles, Tomas... )
maybe it would be a good idea have separate DLR mailing list or forum (for DLR
specific language agnostic questions). But i am afraid that this is a same sort
of decision as if there should be separate codebase for DLR or not.
I would prefer separate mailing lists and separate codebase, but I understand
that it is not easy decision.
thanks,
Slavo.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Sanghyeon Seo <sanxiyn at
gmail.com<mailto:sanxiyn at gmail.com>> wrote:
2008/2/28, Ales Sturala <lists at ruby-forum.com<mailto:lists at
ruby-forum.com>>:> Hi,
> DLR is nice, but what is still missing is "community". I think
there is
> plenty of people trying DLR, but there is no good source for information
> except some blogs. What I am really missing is some community forum,
> where all the developers can look for solutions and discuss their
> problems. Now it looks those people are spread over the Internet and
> there is no place for discussion yet ... or maybe I am wrong and I just
> didn''t find it.
Eh, *this* list is a such forum? And IronPython list.
> Anyway if there is not such place, would be possible to make at least
> category on MSDN forums for DLR?
I much prefer mailing lists to forums.
--
Seo Sanghyeon
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:00:45 -0700, Shri Borde <Shri.Borde at microsoft.com> wrote:> If the volume of DLR-specific questions goes up, that will make it > easier to decide to create a separate mailing list.On the contrary I would argue that people will be more apt to asked DLR specific questions to a DLR specific list. By force of "Not a question related to X, please ask question on list Y"-influenced habit questions will go unasked if people feel they won''t be well received on any given dev-list. -- /M:D M. David Peterson Co-Founder & Chief Architect, 3rd&Urban, LLC Email: m.david at 3rdandUrban.com | m.david at amp.fm Mobile: (206) 418-9027 http://3rdandUrban.com | http://amp.fm | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2354
A lot of the folks on the IronRuby and IronPython mailing lists would also be interested in DLR questions. Creating a separate forum will make it harder for them to hear about the DLR. That said, a separate MSDN forum does sound interesting and I will look into that. Its unlikely to happen right away though. Again, this is a theoretical discussion at the moment about which approach is best, and seeing an increase in the volume of DLR related questions on the IronRuby and IronPython mailing lists would definitely make it easier to push for a separate DLR forum. I would encourage folks interested in the DLR to start asking questions about it. If there is feedback about features required to support other languages, now is the time to start bringing that up. - Shri Want to work on IronPython, IronRuby, F#? Visit http://blogs.msdn.com/ironpython/ -----Original Message----- From: ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of M. David Peterson Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:40 PM To: ironruby-core at rubyforge.org Subject: Re: [Ironruby-core] DLR - where is the community? On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:00:45 -0700, Shri Borde <Shri.Borde at microsoft.com> wrote:> If the volume of DLR-specific questions goes up, that will make it > easier to decide to create a separate mailing list.On the contrary I would argue that people will be more apt to asked DLR specific questions to a DLR specific list. By force of "Not a question related to X, please ask question on list Y"-influenced habit questions will go unasked if people feel they won''t be well received on any given dev-list. -- /M:D M. David Peterson Co-Founder & Chief Architect, 3rd&Urban, LLC Email: m.david at 3rdandUrban.com | m.david at amp.fm Mobile: (206) 418-9027 http://3rdandUrban.com | http://amp.fm | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2354 _______________________________________________ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/ironruby-core
Shri,> A lot of the folks on the IronRuby and IronPython mailing lists would also be interested in DLR questions. > Creating a separate forum will make it harder for them to hear about the DLR.True, but it might also mean that those purely interested in IronRuby and IronPython and not the DLR implementation details from people writing compilers for *other* languages won''t be bothered by it. From my point of view, a lot of whether this makes sense or not depends on whether MS wants to encourage a community around the DLR and having external folks produce language implementations on it, or if it''s mostly considered an implementation detail for MS'' own languages.> That said, a separate MSDN forum does sound interesting and I will look into that.God, please no. The MSDN forums are awful!> Its unlikely to happen right away though. Again, this is a theoretical discussion at the moment > about which approach is best, and seeing an increase in the volume of DLR related questions > on the IronRuby and IronPython mailing lists would definitely make it easier to push for a separate DLR forum.It might be a chicken and egg kind of problem. I bet many more people would be less hesitant about asking DLR questions if there was a forum for it. -- Tomas Restrepo http://www.winterdom.com/weblog/