Howdy, We''ve been working on an opensource wiki project for a while and we think it''s pretty cool, and we want to let more people know about it. We thought the Instiki crowd would be a great place to start, especially since we started with i2. This wiki is built on Rails and lets you create forms with an ActiveRecord focused database back-end. Take a look at the project home page <http://informl.folklogic.net/> (built, of course, using Informl). The home page includes some initial documentation and a link to a screencast that covers some of the more unique features. We''ve also put up a couple of live demos for you to play with, which hopefully will convey what we''re trying to do. Try it out and let us know what you think. The project is currently alpha level, so don''t be too surprised to find a bug or two. We''re looking for feedback on where to go next and for help on working on the project. Thanks, Larry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 266 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070224/230fb03d/attachment.bin
Hi, Christian Lindig pointed out to me that the URL I sent in my email didn''t work -- I did say there might be a bug or two ;-) Anyway, the problem should be fixed now, so please try again if your had problems before. Larry --On February 24, 2007 10:06:50 +0100 Larry Baltz <larry+instiki-users at folklogic.com> wrote:> Howdy, > > We''ve been working on an opensource wiki project for a while and we think > it''s pretty cool, and we want to let more people know about it. We > thought the Instiki crowd would be a great place to start, especially > since we started with i2. This wiki is built on Rails and lets you > create forms with an ActiveRecord focused database back-end. > > Take a look at the project home page <http://informl.folklogic.net/> > (built, of course, using Informl). The home page includes some initial > documentation and a link to a screencast that covers some of the more > unique features. We''ve also put up a couple of live demos for you to > play with, which hopefully will convey what we''re trying to do. > > Try it out and let us know what you think. The project is currently > alpha level, so don''t be too surprised to find a bug or two. We''re > looking for feedback on where to go next and for help on working on the > project. > > > Thanks, > > Larry
Looks very nice. Love the DB integration. I''ve been hoping for something a little more powerful than i2 to emerge. May I suggest setting up a trac system (retrospectiva or collaboa) for feature requests, bug reports, etc? There seems to be a problem when scrolling on pages of the wiki, using Firefox 1.5 on Linux. Good luck! On 2/24/07, Larry Baltz <larry+instiki-users at folklogic.com> wrote:> > Hi, > > Christian Lindig pointed out to me that the URL I sent in my email didn''t > work -- I did say there might be a bug or two ;-) > > Anyway, the problem should be fixed now, so please try again if your had > problems before. > > > Larry > > > --On February 24, 2007 10:06:50 +0100 Larry Baltz > <larry+instiki-users at folklogic.com> wrote: > > > Howdy, > > > > We''ve been working on an opensource wiki project for a while and we > think > > it''s pretty cool, and we want to let more people know about it. We > > thought the Instiki crowd would be a great place to start, especially > > since we started with i2. This wiki is built on Rails and lets you > > create forms with an ActiveRecord focused database back-end. > > > > Take a look at the project home page <http://informl.folklogic.net/> > > (built, of course, using Informl). The home page includes some initial > > documentation and a link to a screencast that covers some of the more > > unique features. We''ve also put up a couple of live demos for you to > > play with, which hopefully will convey what we''re trying to do. > > > > Try it out and let us know what you think. The project is currently > > alpha level, so don''t be too surprised to find a bug or two. We''re > > looking for feedback on where to go next and for help on working on the > > project. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Larry > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users >-- "Impossible is nothing." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070224/13297d02/attachment.html
--On February 24, 2007 17:06:00 -0200 zer0halo <zerohalo at gmail.com> wrote:> > Looks very nice. Love the DB integration. I''ve been hoping for something > a little more powerful than i2 to emerge.Well there''s a lot of work to do. I think Instiki users may find Informl missing features. If you do try it out and find your "must have" features missing, please let us know.> May I suggest setting up a trac system (retrospectiva or collaboa) for > feature requests, bug reports, etc?That''s a good point. For the time being we have a RubyForge project for Informl, which has issue tracking, forums and to-do lists. See <http://rubyforge.org/projects/informl/>. If you have feedback, it''s probably best to post it there.> There seems to be a problem when scrolling on pages of the wiki, using > Firefox 1.5 on Linux. > > Good luck!Will look into the scrolling issue you mention. If you could send some more details as to when the problem occurs (eg. in edit vs. page view mode) that would be really helpful. Larry
--- Larry Baltz <larry+instiki-users at folklogic.com> wrote:> Howdy, > > We''ve been working on an opensource wiki project for a while and we think > it''s pretty cool, and we want to let more people know about it. We thought > the Instiki crowd would be a great place to start, especially since we > started with i2. This wiki is built on Rails and lets you create forms > with an ActiveRecord focused database back-end. > > Take a look at the project home page <http://informl.folklogic.net/> > (built, of course, using Informl). The home page includes some initial > documentation and a link to a screencast that covers some of the more > unique features. We''ve also put up a couple of live demos for you to play > with, which hopefully will convey what we''re trying to do. > > Try it out and let us know what you think. The project is currently alpha > level, so don''t be too surprised to find a bug or two. We''re looking for > feedback on where to go next and for help on working on the project. > > > Thanks, > > Larry > > _______________________________________________i hope this one will last and keep active long. it looks nice. i like the form creation. however, it seems that after i submit the form and go back to standard view, the url is http://informl.folklogic.net/skep/pages/Things+We+Need+To+Do%3Aresult which is incorrect. cheers, James. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Another wiki that lacks authentication?! mathew
please, guys don''t use the instiki mailinglist for advertising your product. this list is _only instiki related_ and we don''t need no fork-discussion here - we have enough to work on instiki. this is completely OT. if you really want to do something instiki-related, submit back some patches or feedback, bugfixes, whatever. you can do that on http://dev.instiki.org -mt On 2/26/07, mathew <meta at pobox.com> wrote:> Another wiki that lacks authentication?! > > > mathew > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users >
--On February 25, 2007 17:11:19 -0600 mathew wrote:> Another wiki that lacks authentication?! > > > mathewYeah, authentication is pretty high on the project to-do list. What type or level of authentication would you need? What in Instiki works and doesn''t work in the way of authentication? We''ll probably be looking at using an existing Rails authentication scheme with an eye to allowing a coherent method across an entire site that may contain other Rails built elements in addition to Informl. Has anybody used anything that plays nice with Rails apps? Thanks, Larry P.S. we''ve added the "brain buster" plug in to help prevent wiki spam, which addresses one element of why some wikis have authentication.
> please, guys don''t use the instiki mailinglist for advertising your > product. this list is _only instiki related_ and we don''t need no > fork-discussion here - we have enough to work on instiki. this is > completely OT.And that work would be visible where, exactly? I apologize for how sharp that probably sounds, but the last Instiki release is nearly a year old.> if you really want to do something instiki-related, submit back some > patches or feedback, bugfixes, whatever. you can do that on > http://dev.instiki.orgAgain, I''m sorry for the sharpness, but that''s been down for so long I stopped checking months ago. I gather you''re ostensibly the Instiki maintainer now -- great. Do you think perhaps announcing that to the Instiki users mailing list (i.e., right here) might have been a good idea? I sure didn''t know that until I just looked. You didn''t even respond to the thread last month on "Status of Instiki and i2," and I bet I''m not alone in having assumed that the complete lack of answers from anyone maintaining the software meant nobody WAS maintaining the software. Don''t blame users here for having started to treat this less as the Instiki Users List (not developers, note!) but as the Former Instiki Users Looking For Actively Developed Projects List. With all due respect, I think it''s great that you''re taking over development, but you (and other active contributors) might want to consider, oh, posting what''s going on to the users'' mailing list here -- introducing yourselves, telling us where things stand now and where you''d like to take them. Because bluntly, we''ve been left in the dark for a year, and while you may have taken over the Subversion repository, you haven''t switched on the lights in here. -- Watts Martin <watts at ranea.org>
Watts, I agree with Matthias on this one. The "hey, I found a new wiki that''s sorta/kinda cool" is ok, but I would consider a feature discussion on, well, anything not instiki as off-topic. (note, this is not a comment on the validity/non-validity of the other product, just that this is not the right place for it) Now, going through your e-mail, there were a few questions on current status, maintainer information, etc and if you go to www.instiki.org, it should answer some (all?) of your questions. You do bring up a good point about communication, and I was just thinking, if communication is the problem, maybe what we need is an RSS feed specifically for Instiki news..... just an idea. Thanks, Johannes On 2/26/07, Watts Martin <watts at ranea.org> wrote:> > > please, guys don''t use the instiki mailinglist for advertising your > > product. this list is _only instiki related_ and we don''t need no > > fork-discussion here - we have enough to work on instiki. this is > > completely OT. > > And that work would be visible where, exactly? I apologize for how sharp > that probably sounds, but the last Instiki release is nearly a year old. > > > if you really want to do something instiki-related, submit back some > > patches or feedback, bugfixes, whatever. you can do that on > > http://dev.instiki.org > > Again, I''m sorry for the sharpness, but that''s been down for so long I > stopped checking months ago. I gather you''re ostensibly the Instiki > maintainer now -- great. Do you think perhaps announcing that to the > Instiki users mailing list (i.e., right here) might have been a good > idea? I sure didn''t know that until I just looked. You didn''t even > respond to the thread last month on "Status of Instiki and i2," and I > bet I''m not alone in having assumed that the complete lack of answers > from anyone maintaining the software meant nobody WAS maintaining the > software. > > Don''t blame users here for having started to treat this less as the > Instiki Users List (not developers, note!) but as the Former Instiki > Users Looking For Actively Developed Projects List. With all due > respect, I think it''s great that you''re taking over development, but you > (and other active contributors) might want to consider, oh, posting > what''s going on to the users'' mailing list here -- introducing > yourselves, telling us where things stand now and where you''d like to > take them. Because bluntly, we''ve been left in the dark for a year, and > while you may have taken over the Subversion repository, you haven''t > switched on the lights in here. > > -- > Watts Martin <watts at ranea.org> > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20070227/52faaa49/attachment-0001.html
On 2/26/07, Larry Baltz <larry+instiki-users at folklogic.com> wrote:> What type or level of authentication would you need? What in Instiki works > and doesn''t work in the way of authentication?Personally, I want OpenID support. An option for creating local username/password credentials would probably be a good idea, for those who don''t like OpenID. <URL:http://www.openidenabled.com/openid/libraries/ruby/about> The most important thing is I want it to work out of the box without having to write Rails code. mathew
> Watts, > > I agree with Matthias on this one. The "hey, I found a new wiki > that''s sorta/kinda cool" is ok, but I would consider a feature > discussion on, well, anything not instiki as off-topic. (note, > this is not a comment on the validity/non-validity of the other > product, just that this is not the right place for it)My point really wasn''t that this list is a great place for new non-Instiki product announcements...> Now, going through your e-mail, there were a few questions on > current status, maintainer information, etc and if you go to > www.instiki.org, it should answer some (all?) of your questions. > > You do bring up a good point about communication, and I was just > thinking, if communication is the problem, maybe what we need is > an RSS feed specifically for Instiki news..... just an idea....it was that it seems to me that we *have* something specifically for Instiki news right now: this mailing list! While it''s possible that I missed it, none of the information about the new maintainer, work starting again, or even the re-availability of the Instiki web site and Trac (both of which had been down for quite some time) was sent to this list. I doubt I''m the only one who was left with the impression that Instiki was a dead project, and were that to be the case, "what product still under active development can we use as an Instiki replacement" would be a pretty logical topic for the users mailing list. This may be a rather moot point now, of course, but I think the general point remains. This list is here expressly to communicate with Instiki users. When something major happens -- like, say, new developers restarting the project! -- dropping at least a quick note here about the news seems like a good thing, even if it''s just "New maintainers, check the web site for details." :) - Watts -- Watts Martin <watts at ranea.org>