Instiki users - Jan 2006 - [Instiki] (no subject)

OK, I finally got brave and downloaded a copy of Instiki.
Specifically, instiki-ar-beta1.zip

The README says:

  Step 1. Download
  Step 2. Run "instiki"
  Step 3. Chuckle... "There''s no step three!" (TM)

This is not precisely true.  It _is_ true that (on my OSX box)
the zipfile unpacked itself automagically.  I then went into
the instiki-ar directory and ran instiki, as follows:
> % cd ~/De*/instiki-ar
> % instiki
> ./script/../config/environment.rb:68:in `initialize'':
>   No such file or directory -
>   /Local/_Private/Homes/rdm/Desktop/instiki-ar/config/database.yml
>(Errno::ENOENT)
>         from ./script/../config/environment.rb:68:in `open''
>         from ./script/../config/environment.rb:68
>         from ./script/server:42:in `require''
>         from ./script/server:42
>         from instiki:6:in `load''
>         from instiki:6
> % ls config
> database.default.yml    environments
> environment.rb          routes.rb
Uhuh.  OK, I''m still feeling brave.
> % cp config/database.default.yml config/database.yml
> % instiki
> => Instiki started on http://0.0.0.0:2500
> => Ctrl-C to shutdown; call with --help for options
> [2006-01-20 00:42:01] INFO  WEBrick 1.3.1
> [2006-01-20 00:42:01] INFO  ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [powerpc-darwin8.0]
> [2006-01-20 00:42:01] INFO  WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=15639 port=2500
Looks promising, but when I tried the URL (http://localhost:2500),
I got this nastygram:
> No such file to load -- sqlite3
> /app/models/wiki.rb:82:in `setup?''
> /app/controllers/wiki_controller.rb:17:in `index''
> ./script/server:49
> instiki:6:in `load''
> instiki:6
> Show framework trace
>
> This error occured while loading the following files:
>    sqlite3
>
> Request
>
> Parameters: None
>
> Show session dump
>
> Response
> Headers: {"cookie"=>[], 
"Content-Type"=>"text/html; charset=UTF-8",
>"Cache-Control"=>"no-cache"}
Gosh, OSX has sqlite3...
> % which sqlite3
> /usr/bin/sqlite3
So, it looks like there SHOULD be a step 3.  Anyone want to help
this ruby/rails/instiki nuby get started?

-r
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Rich Morin wrote:
> OK, I finally got brave and downloaded a copy of Instiki.
> Specifically, instiki-ar-beta1.zip
> 
<snip>
> 
> Gosh, OSX has sqlite3...
> 
>> % which sqlite3
>> /usr/bin/sqlite3
> 
> So, it looks like there SHOULD be a step 3.  Anyone want to help
> this ruby/rails/instiki nuby get started?
> 
> -r
Have you got the sqlite3 ruby gem installed?

# gem install sqlite3

You also need to create the initial database tables, I believe by 
running script/create_db

Chris

On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 00:51 -0800, Rich Morin wrote:
>   Step 3. Chuckle... "There''s no step three!" (TM)
> 
> This is not precisely true.
...
> So, it looks like there SHOULD be a step 3.  Anyone want to help
> this ruby/rails/instiki nuby get started?
While the original Instiki was a bit flip about this, I don''t know if
"there is no step three" is a claim that Instiki-ar will ever be able
to
live up to, except for a very limited (and therefore possibly not
terribly useful) subset of possible configurations.  Because of the
rather broad range of possible relational backends and different
configurations of those backends (locally hosted? remotely hosted?
virtual hosting? mysql? postgresql? sqlite? root access?) I rather doubt
it.

Caveat: IANAID (I am not an Instiki developer).  I''d love to hear from
those who set the goals for the project whether or not they consider
"there is no step 3" something that is important, or even possible to
continue to deliver if Instiki-ar is to become the successor to the
Madeleine-based instiki.

Ben

> Caveat: IANAID (I am not an Instiki developer).  I''d love to hear
from
> those who set the goals for the project whether or not they consider
> "there is no step 3" something that is important, or even
possible to
> continue to deliver if Instiki-ar is to become the successor to the
> Madeleine-based instiki.
IANAID either, but I don''t see how is that sustainable over multiple
platforms. There are just too many issues with repackaging and setting
up the databases that I guess this will have to be dropped. For Pimki,
I am currently developing an ActiveRecord adapter to KirbyBase (pure
ruby DBMS)... but WEBrick + KB probably won''t scale above small
groups. Fine for me, not so good for Instiki.

Cheers,
Assaph

Assaph Mehr wrote:
>> Caveat: IANAID (I am not an Instiki developer).  I''d love to
hear from
>> those who set the goals for the project whether or not they consider
>> "there is no step 3" something that is important, or even
possible to
>> continue to deliver if Instiki-ar is to become the successor to the
>> Madeleine-based instiki.
> 
> IANAID either, but I don''t see how is that sustainable over
multiple
> platforms.
IANAID (though I keep threatening to become one...)  Seems to me that, 
if Instiki were to become a Rails engine, it could be "no step 3" in
two
ways simultaneously:

1. Package it as a standalone app which just happens to be based on 
Rails, and

2. Offer it as an engine which has "no step 3" if you''re
already running
Rails.

Jay Levitt