Hi, I have a fairly large wiki which is becoming very slow, storage tops over 600 mb now :( I am very aware of instiki-ar but I am holding off transitioning to mysql or sqlite untill its actually released, espesially as when I checked out the latest SVN it didnt match up to any instructions I could find, as has been documented here on the list before. So basically a simple question, what is the time frame on this one? A week, two, four? No pressure intended, I am just wondering if I should make do for a few more weeks or not. cheers john
At 12:43 AM +0200 11/29/05, John Evans wrote:> So basically a simple question, what is the time frame on this one? > A week, two, four? No pressure intended, I am just wondering if I > should make do for a few more weeks or not.What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. I''ve seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey''s pleas for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)? Meanwhile, Pimki hasn''t had any releases since 9/15. Assaph, can you give us any idea about your release plans? On 11/10, you said I''m currently waiting for the dust to settle a bit before reimplementing, *again*, Pimki over the new Instiki. I''m still considering what''s the best course to achieve that, especially since Pimki is aimed at really personal use / small groups - people that need it to "just work" without the hassle of database maintenance. Inquiring minds need to know... -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc.
Hi Rich, Can''t speak for Alexey, but I think he mentioned he hopes to get a bit done over the holidays. I believe he''s also looking for contributors who can take over the project. I think that Beta1 mostly works. There were a few minor issues, but it should more or less work. I have no idea how much change would there be between it and the next release though.> Meanwhile, Pimki hasn''t had any releases since 9/15. Assaph, can > you give us any idea about your release plans? On 11/10, you saidSince Instiki development is done in spurts and since the packaging format is yet to be determined - all of which is not really good for Pimki - I have decided to build Pimki on top of KirbyBase[1] as a backend. For this end I am writing a ActiveRecord adapter for it[2]. Once done (soon) I will take whatever is there in the Instiki trunk (hopefully there will be a release soon) and rebuild Pimki on top of it. After that the ties between Instiki and Pimki will be looser - I will make sure that you can import webs exported by Instiki, the look & feel will be rougly similar (I DO plan to borrow as much code :-), but the functionality and underlying arch will be somewhat different. I have tons of ideas and work for Pimki, but the backend hussles have been slowing me down. You can take a look at Pimki2 (in CVS) for some of the work - it''s functional but in a zombie state until the backend change is complete. Instiki is a fine project, and I think it''s a damn shame that it peters out like this. Currently if you''re after a lite-but-stable wiki I2 & Soks are better, and if you''re after a personal wiki Pimki is better. Instiki falls in the grey area between, and with Alexey so busy it doesn''t get enough loving to keep it alive. I do not believe I am the right person to maintain Instiki, but if there are interested parties - please contact Alexey! (He won''t bite, he''s a nice - but overworked - chap :-) Cheers, Assaph [1] http://www.netpromi.com/kirbybase_ruby.html [2] http://rubyforge.org/projects/ackbar
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:58 -0800, Rich Morin wrote:> What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. > I''ve seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey''s pleas > for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that > everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)?I don''t know about everyone else, but I''m holding off. Ben
BG - Ben Armstrong wrote:>On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:58 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > >>What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. >>I''ve seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey''s pleas >>for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that >>everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)? >> >> >I don''t know about everyone else, but I''m holding off. > >Commentary that I received was either along the "just works" lines, or complaints about installation process. I''ve fixed several low severity bugs between that release and now, and there are a few more open in the Trac. Best regards, Alex
Alex-
Pardon my ignorance; here are some naive questions:
* Is Rails bundled with Instiki-AR?
* Does the current version of Instiki-AR
play nicely with Rails 1.0?
I''d like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that
uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations.
-r
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I''m not Alex, but...> * Is Rails bundled with Instiki-AR?In the zip file under /vendor/rails> * Does the current version of Instiki-AR > play nicely with Rails 1.0?I believe the SVN HEAD does.> I''d like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that > uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations.Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean? Cheers, Assaph
At 8:32 PM +1100 12/29/05, Assaph Mehr wrote:>> I''d like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that >> uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations. > > Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean?I''d like to start experimenting with Instiki-AR, making assorted extensions, etc. I''d rather not do all this on a version that uses the pre-1.0 Rails, as that is likely to cause more rework for me when Instiki-AR makes the move to Rails 1.0. I realize that nothing in this world is stable, but an occasional "line in the sand" snapshot can give the temporary illusion of permanence (:-). -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc.
> I''d like to start experimenting with Instiki-AR, making > assorted extensions, etc. I''d rather not do all this on > a version that uses the pre-1.0 Rails, as that is likely > to cause more rework for me when Instiki-AR makes the > move to Rails 1.0. I realize that nothing in this world > is stable, but an occasional "line in the sand" snapshot > can give the temporary illusion of permanence (:-).I think the problem will be Instiki itself rather than the underlying Rails version. Instiki development has been in spurts over the past few months (not that I blame Alexey - I do the same when I''m busy ;-), and the end result are huge differences between minor versions. And while catching up to new releases may be a pain, if you don''t mind a few rough corners the version in SVN head should be an excellent base. It is a clean and simple wiki that can be extended easily. There are a few gotchas, but we''ll gladly help with them :-) Cheers, Assaph