Icecast - Mar 2020 - Icecast source client with web request/voting for next to play function

Hi all!

Thank you for having me. I'm a person who encourage a small local community
for musical involvement. It already kinda worked, we are doing plenty of
fantastic things together.

What I am now thinking of is 24/7 Internet radio based on Icecast that will
air all of their non-professional music I gathered. Functions I'm looking
for:
- frequent scanning of music directory to update music library for dynamic
playlist building
- to shuffle music on playlist fairly to not have same artist played two or
more times in a row, so all artists could have a chance to be aired equally
- from web perspective to have possibility for end-users to select songs
which will be played next
- replaygain support (radio mode, not album mode)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for any easy/ready solution, maybe
I'm
not a coder but I can at least try to script something in bash or Python.
However, I'm confused regarding source clients available - Liquidsoap,
butt, MPD, DarkIce, DeeFuzzer, Ezstream (at least I find these projects as
quite active) - I have no experience with them and I can't really find
useful opinions. Can you tell which of them could be best for described
vision? I'd appreciate if you could recommend me any way I could follow,
which specific software components I would possibly need to integrate. Even
brief information will do!

Thanks! Stay healthy!
Kokos
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Hi Konrad,

I really like what your mission for broadcasting music with Icecast.

I use liquidsoap ( https://www.liquidsoap.info/ ) to automate streaming
of past-recorded music content on my webradio. It's worked great, but be
aware that there is a steep learning curve compared to something like Ices2.

I am managing a project with some excellent developers here called Cool
Mic which broadcasts live audio that you could use for live performances
as well, to for example a fallback mountpoint. We are also using this
code for a live music streaming platform called SubJam (
https://subj.am/ ) that also uses Icecast as a backend. We're looking
for additional developers and funding sources with this project.

I know that others have accomplished the 'vote for next track' function,
it is beyond the scope of Icecast however and would interact with the
source client itself.


Cheers,
Jordan


On 3/19/20 8:39 AM, Konrad Kostecki wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> Thank you for having me. I'm a person who encourage a small local
> community for musical involvement. It already kinda worked, we are doing
> plenty of fantastic things together.
> 
> What I am now thinking of is 24/7 Internet radio based on Icecast that
> will air all of their non-professional music I gathered. Functions I'm
> looking for:
> - frequent scanning of music directory to update music library for
> dynamic playlist building
> - to shuffle music on playlist fairly to not have same artist played two
> or more times in a row, so all artists could have a chance to be aired
> equally
> - from web perspective to have possibility for end-users to select songs
> which will be played next
> - replaygain support (radio mode, not album mode)
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for any easy/ready solution,
maybe
> I'm not a coder but I can at least try to script something in bash or
> Python. However, I'm confused regarding source clients available -
> Liquidsoap, butt, MPD, DarkIce, DeeFuzzer, Ezstream (at least I find
> these projects as quite active) - I have no experience with them and I
> can't really find useful opinions. Can you tell which of them could be
> best for described vision? I'd appreciate if you could recommend me any
> way I could follow, which specific software components I would possibly
> need to integrate. Even brief information will do!
> 
> Thanks! Stay healthy!
> Kokos
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>

Hi Kokos

The first thing you need is a music play out system. Almost anything can 
play a random song from your collection; but; you have some conditions 
you want to place on the play out process.

I recommend a program called Rivendell which is free and will do 
everything you want.

http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install-rd3/rivendell-install-rhel7.html

There is a FB group and a mailing list and a Wiki.

The Rivendell system includes a stream creation program which will 
output mp3 or AAC+ or you can output the audio to a mixer and route that 
to a computer running darkice or whatever.

You will need a computer running Icecast2  and I recommend you do not 
try and run it on the same computer as Rivendell.

You can build Icecast2 on Ubuntu Server on almost anything.

If you want someone to be able to request a song 'on-line', something I 
caution you against, you can create web page code in perl or python 
which will achieve that.

All music is normalised to the same level which you have full control 
over. Big subject. Too big for here. You can install some dynamic 
processing.

You import your music, set up events to play it with separation rules. 
Put the events into clocks where you can add more selection rules.

Your home broadband will not support too many listeners. Depending on 
how much choke your ISP puts on your service; and they all do; you might 
get 3 or 4 reliable simultaneous connects so you will need a streaming 
service.

Depending where there are plenty of options. You get what you pay for.

Have fun.

regards


Robert

On 20/03/20 4:39 am, Konrad Kostecki wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Thank you for having me. I'm a person who encourage a small local 
> community for musical involvement. It already kinda worked, we are 
> doing plenty of fantastic things together.
>
> What I am now thinking of is 24/7 Internet radio based on Icecast that 
> will air all of their non-professional music I gathered. Functions I'm 
> looking for:
> - frequent scanning of music directory to update music library for 
> dynamic playlist building
> - to shuffle music on playlist fairly to not have same artist played 
> two or more times in a row, so all artists could have a chance to be 
> aired equally
> - from web perspective to have possibility for end-users to select 
> songs which will be played next
> - replaygain support (radio mode, not album mode)
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for any easy/ready solution,
maybe
> I'm not a coder but I can at least try to script something in bash or 
> Python. However, I'm confused regarding source clients available - 
> Liquidsoap, butt, MPD, DarkIce, DeeFuzzer, Ezstream (at least I find 
> these projects as quite active) - I have no experience with them and I 
> can't really find useful opinions. Can you tell which of them could be 
> best for described vision? I'd appreciate if you could recommend me 
> any way I could follow, which specific software components I would 
> possibly need to integrate. Even brief information will do!
>
> Thanks! Stay healthy!
> Kokos
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
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From: Icecast <icecast-bounces at xiph.org> On Behalf Of Robert Jeffares
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 7:05 PM
To: icecast at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [Icecast] Icecast source client with web request/voting for next to
play function

 

Hi Kokos

The first thing you need is a music play out system. Almost anything can play a
random song from your collection; but; you have some conditions you want to
place on the play out process.

I recommend a program called Rivendell which is free and will do everything you
want.

http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install-rd3/rivendell-install-rhel7.html

There is a FB group and a mailing list and a Wiki.

The Rivendell system includes a stream creation program which will output mp3 or
AAC+ or you can output the audio to a mixer and route that to a computer running
darkice or whatever.

You will need a computer running Icecast2  and I recommend you do not try and
run it on the same computer as Rivendell.

You can build Icecast2 on Ubuntu Server on almost anything.

If you want someone to be able to request a song 'on-line', something I
caution you against, you can create web page code in perl or python which will
achieve that.

All music is normalised to the same level which you have full control over. Big
subject. Too big for here. You can install some dynamic processing.

You import your music, set up events to play it with separation rules. Put the
events into clocks where you can add more selection rules.

Your home broadband will not support too many listeners. Depending on how much
choke your ISP puts on your service; and they all do; you might get 3 or 4
reliable simultaneous connects so you will need a streaming service.

Depending where there are plenty of options. You get what you pay for.

Have fun.

regards

 

Robert

On 20/03/20 4:39 am, Konrad Kostecki wrote:

Hi all!

 

Thank you for having me. I'm a person who encourage a small local community
for musical involvement. It already kinda worked, we are doing plenty of
fantastic things together.

 

What I am now thinking of is 24/7 Internet radio based on Icecast that will air
all of their non-professional music I gathered. Functions I'm looking for:

- frequent scanning of music directory to update music library for dynamic
playlist building

- to shuffle music on playlist fairly to not have same artist played two or more
times in a row, so all artists could have a chance to be aired equally

- from web perspective to have possibility for end-users to select songs which
will be played next

- replaygain support (radio mode, not album mode)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for any easy/ready solution, maybe
I'm not a coder but I can at least try to script something in bash or
Python. However, I'm confused regarding source clients available -
Liquidsoap, butt, MPD, DarkIce, DeeFuzzer, Ezstream (at least I find these
projects as quite active) - I have no experience with them and I can't
really find useful opinions. Can you tell which of them could be best for
described vision? I'd appreciate if you could recommend me any way I could
follow, which specific software components I would possibly need to integrate.
Even brief information will do!

 

Thanks! Stay healthy!

Kokos





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