Icecast - Nov 2015 - Procedure to Install Icecast 2.4.2 in Linux

Good afternoon,

On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:19 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:
> Sorry to reply to myself. The message says "could not parse
xslt".
Ok. Please have a look at the config file (icecast*.xml). In the <paths>
section there should be a <webroot> as well as a <adminroot>
setting. Do
those point to existing directories with some *.xsl in them?

Another litte hint: apt-get install --reinstall ...

Have a nice day!
> Jeremiah Rogers
> Cell: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> Social Networking: /jzrogers
> 
> 
> > On Nov 2, 2015, at 05:51, Jeremiah Rogers <jeremiahzrogers at
gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Philipp. Thanks so much for the educatin about why not to build
myself.
> > 
> > The error I was getting, from a browser when I tried to open the URL
to my machine running Icecast, was a 404 error and a message that it
couldn't find the XSLT files. I'll install the packaged build again
later today and provide you exact error text, but I remember it saying it
couldn't find or process the XSLT.
> > 
> > Would it be helpful for me to do an apt-get download icecast2 and
somehow provide the resulting download to someone off-list so they can see what
I got?
> > 
> > Jeremiah Rogers
> > Cell: 704-996-5334
> > Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> > Social Networking: /jzrogers
> > 
> > 
> >> On Nov 2, 2015, at 02:17, Philipp Schafft <lion at
lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Good morning,
> >> 
> >>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 18:12 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> >>> Hi all. I'm brand new to Linux and want to install Icecast
2.4.2 on Raspian.
> >>> 
> >>> I used apt-get to install Icecast 2.4.0, and the install would
stream
> >>> music, but none of the status or admin pages would work. I ran
the
> >>> install by typing sudo apt-get install icecast2 from ~.
> >> 
> >> Ok, that sounds right.
> >> 
> >> What error message you get when accessing those pages?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> I thought I might get better results if I built and installed
myself.
> >>> Anyone able to provide step-by-step instructions to unpack and
build
> >>> from the tar.gz, or point me to a good tutorial online for
doing such?
> >>> In particular, which directory should I be in to initiate the
work? Do I
> >>> need to use sudo? Once installed, what do I do to make it run
on system
> >>> boot? I will be running this install from a fresh image.
Thanks!
> >> 
> >> I very much recommend against installing stuff from source. This
is not
> >> so much related to Icecast2 but a general statement.
> >> 
> >> The reasons why I recommend using pre-compiled packages are as the
> >> following. The importance of individual aspects vary depending on
your
> >> situation.
> >>     * You will not get updates. You will likely never notice that
> >>       there are updates out there. This is a big problem as no
> >>       SECURITY fixes can reach you. Thus installing stuff from
source
> >>       can be very harmful.
> >>     * Most people install stuff from source without verifying the
> >>       source. (Or have no way to really verify it at all as
they're
> >>       (cryptographically speaking) too far away from the source.
So
> >>       you will run a software that may be altered on it's path
to you
> >>       (this includes everything from simple transmission errors to
> >>       attacks specially targeted to you). Thus you can not trust
the
> >>       software most of the time. Once your ran any untrusted
software
> >>       your system must be considered compromised.
> >>     * The package is made to fit your system while the source is
not.
> >>       e.g. the package usually installs scripts and helper files
to
> >>       e.g. start a daemon on system start up or intigrate with
tools
> >>       like logrotate. You need to do all that yourself and may or
may
> >>       not aware of all those things. See your question above. You
have
> >>       asked for it already so you got this point already :).
> >>     * If people run the package provided by the OS it's more
easy to
> >>       handle bugs. There is a single packet that you can report
bugs
> >>       against and the maintainer can upstream bugs or cooperate
with
> >>       upstream in any way to solve problems. If you run your own
> >>       package you need to take care yourself.
> >>     * You waste energy. Compiling is process taking a lot of
energy.
> >>       And there is no reason for the mass do to this as the
> >>       pre-compiled binaries are matching your system virtually
> >>       perfectly. Energy is the ONLY single one resource on this
planet
> >>       we are RUNNING OUT OF.
> >> 
> >> So for the reasons above I would prefer to work on fixing the
problem
> >> above and not go with source code. Plus I think you will learn a
bit
> >> about the system that is new to you. :)
> >> 
> >> Have a nice day! Awaiting your response with the error message(s).
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Philipp.
> >> (Rah of PH2)
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Icecast mailing list
> >> Icecast at xiph.org
> >> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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-- 
Jack Elliott
Producer, The Point Wednesday
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KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio
kpov.org

On 11/2/2015 5:35 AM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:19 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>> Sorry to reply to myself. The message says "could not parse
xslt".
> Ok. Please have a look at the config file (icecast*.xml). In the
<paths>
> section there should be a <webroot> as well as a <adminroot>
setting. Do
> those point to existing directories with some *.xsl in them?
>
> Another litte hint: apt-get install --reinstall ...
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>> Jeremiah Rogers
>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 05:51, Jeremiah Rogers <jeremiahzrogers at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Philipp. Thanks so much for the educatin about why not to
build myself.
>>>
>>> The error I was getting, from a browser when I tried to open the
URL to my machine running Icecast, was a 404 error and a message that it
couldn't find the XSLT files. I'll install the packaged build again
later today and provide you exact error text, but I remember it saying it
couldn't find or process the XSLT.
>>>
>>> Would it be helpful for me to do an apt-get download icecast2 and
somehow provide the resulting download to someone off-list so they can see what
I got?
>>>
>>> Jeremiah Rogers
>>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>>> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 02:17, Philipp Schafft <lion at
lion.leolix.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 18:12 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>>>>> Hi all. I'm brand new to Linux and want to install
Icecast 2.4.2 on Raspian.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used apt-get to install Icecast 2.4.0, and the install
would stream
>>>>> music, but none of the status or admin pages would work. I
ran the
>>>>> install by typing sudo apt-get install icecast2 from ~.
>>>> Ok, that sounds right.
>>>>
>>>> What error message you get when accessing those pages?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I thought I might get better results if I built and
installed myself.
>>>>> Anyone able to provide step-by-step instructions to unpack
and build
>>>>> from the tar.gz, or point me to a good tutorial online for
doing such?
>>>>> In particular, which directory should I be in to initiate
the work? Do I
>>>>> need to use sudo? Once installed, what do I do to make it
run on system
>>>>> boot? I will be running this install from a fresh image.
Thanks!
>>>> I very much recommend against installing stuff from source.
This is not
>>>> so much related to Icecast2 but a general statement.
>>>>
>>>> The reasons why I recommend using pre-compiled packages are as
the
>>>> following. The importance of individual aspects vary depending
on your
>>>> situation.
>>>>      * You will not get updates. You will likely never notice
that
>>>>        there are updates out there. This is a big problem as no
>>>>        SECURITY fixes can reach you. Thus installing stuff from
source
>>>>        can be very harmful.
>>>>      * Most people install stuff from source without verifying
the
>>>>        source. (Or have no way to really verify it at all as
they're
>>>>        (cryptographically speaking) too far away from the
source. So
>>>>        you will run a software that may be altered on it's
path to you
>>>>        (this includes everything from simple transmission
errors to
>>>>        attacks specially targeted to you). Thus you can not
trust the
>>>>        software most of the time. Once your ran any untrusted
software
>>>>        your system must be considered compromised.
>>>>      * The package is made to fit your system while the source
is not.
>>>>        e.g. the package usually installs scripts and helper
files to
>>>>        e.g. start a daemon on system start up or intigrate with
tools
>>>>        like logrotate. You need to do all that yourself and may
or may
>>>>        not aware of all those things. See your question above.
You have
>>>>        asked for it already so you got this point already :).
>>>>      * If people run the package provided by the OS it's
more easy to
>>>>        handle bugs. There is a single packet that you can
report bugs
>>>>        against and the maintainer can upstream bugs or
cooperate with
>>>>        upstream in any way to solve problems. If you run your
own
>>>>        package you need to take care yourself.
>>>>      * You waste energy. Compiling is process taking a lot of
energy.
>>>>        And there is no reason for the mass do to this as the
>>>>        pre-compiled binaries are matching your system virtually
>>>>        perfectly. Energy is the ONLY single one resource on
this planet
>>>>        we are RUNNING OUT OF.
>>>>
>>>> So for the reasons above I would prefer to work on fixing the
problem
>>>> above and not go with source code. Plus I think you will learn
a bit
>>>> about the system that is new to you. :)
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day! Awaiting your response with the error
message(s).
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Philipp.
>>>> (Rah of PH2)
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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My apologies, I mis-posted.

-- 
Jack Elliott
Producer, The Point Wednesday
Host, The Sunday Classics
KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio
kpov.org

On 11/2/2015 9:10 AM, that Jack Elliott wrote:
> Oops -- forgot to create the folder. Move bits and pieces in there at 
> your convenience. Thanks!
> -- 
> Jack Elliott
> Producer, The Point Wednesday
> Host, The Sunday Classics
> KPOV 88.9 High Desert Radio
> kpov.org
> On 11/2/2015 5:35 AM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:19 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>>> Sorry to reply to myself. The message says "could not parse
xslt".
>> Ok. Please have a look at the config file (icecast*.xml). In the
<paths>
>> section there should be a <webroot> as well as a
<adminroot> setting. Do
>> those point to existing directories with some *.xsl in them?
>>
>> Another litte hint: apt-get install --reinstall ...
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>>> Jeremiah Rogers
>>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>>> Email:jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 05:51, Jeremiah Rogers<jeremiahzrogers at
gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Philipp. Thanks so much for the educatin about why not to
build myself.
>>>>
>>>> The error I was getting, from a browser when I tried to open
the URL to my machine running Icecast, was a 404 error and a message that it
couldn't find the XSLT files. I'll install the packaged build again
later today and provide you exact error text, but I remember it saying it
couldn't find or process the XSLT.
>>>>
>>>> Would it be helpful for me to do an apt-get download icecast2
and somehow provide the resulting download to someone off-list so they can see
what I got?
>>>>
>>>> Jeremiah Rogers
>>>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>>>> Email:jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>>>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 02:17, Philipp Schafft<lion at
lion.leolix.org>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 18:12 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all. I'm brand new to Linux and want to install
Icecast 2.4.2 on Raspian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used apt-get to install Icecast 2.4.0, and the
install would stream
>>>>>> music, but none of the status or admin pages would
work. I ran the
>>>>>> install by typing sudo apt-get install icecast2 from ~.
>>>>> Ok, that sounds right.
>>>>>
>>>>> What error message you get when accessing those pages?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I might get better results if I built and
installed myself.
>>>>>> Anyone able to provide step-by-step instructions to
unpack and build
>>>>>> from the tar.gz, or point me to a good tutorial online
for doing such?
>>>>>> In particular, which directory should I be in to
initiate the work? Do I
>>>>>> need to use sudo? Once installed, what do I do to make
it run on system
>>>>>> boot? I will be running this install from a fresh
image. Thanks!
>>>>> I very much recommend against installing stuff from source.
This is not
>>>>> so much related to Icecast2 but a general statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reasons why I recommend using pre-compiled packages are
as the
>>>>> following. The importance of individual aspects vary
depending on your
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>      * You will not get updates. You will likely never
notice that
>>>>>        there are updates out there. This is a big problem
as no
>>>>>        SECURITY fixes can reach you. Thus installing stuff
from source
>>>>>        can be very harmful.
>>>>>      * Most people install stuff from source without
verifying the
>>>>>        source. (Or have no way to really verify it at all
as they're
>>>>>        (cryptographically speaking) too far away from the
source. So
>>>>>        you will run a software that may be altered on
it's path to you
>>>>>        (this includes everything from simple transmission
errors to
>>>>>        attacks specially targeted to you). Thus you can not
trust the
>>>>>        software most of the time. Once your ran any
untrusted software
>>>>>        your system must be considered compromised.
>>>>>      * The package is made to fit your system while the
source is not.
>>>>>        e.g. the package usually installs scripts and helper
files to
>>>>>        e.g. start a daemon on system start up or intigrate
with tools
>>>>>        like logrotate. You need to do all that yourself and
may or may
>>>>>        not aware of all those things. See your question
above. You have
>>>>>        asked for it already so you got this point already
:).
>>>>>      * If people run the package provided by the OS
it's more easy to
>>>>>        handle bugs. There is a single packet that you can
report bugs
>>>>>        against and the maintainer can upstream bugs or
cooperate with
>>>>>        upstream in any way to solve problems. If you run
your own
>>>>>        package you need to take care yourself.
>>>>>      * You waste energy. Compiling is process taking a lot
of energy.
>>>>>        And there is no reason for the mass do to this as
the
>>>>>        pre-compiled binaries are matching your system
virtually
>>>>>        perfectly. Energy is the ONLY single one resource on
this planet
>>>>>        we are RUNNING OUT OF.
>>>>>
>>>>> So for the reasons above I would prefer to work on fixing
the problem
>>>>> above and not go with source code. Plus I think you will
learn a bit
>>>>> about the system that is new to you. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day! Awaiting your response with the error
message(s).
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Philipp.
>>>>> (Rah of PH2)
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Icecast mailing list
>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
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Thank's Philipp and Dmitrijs. That got it fixed. I just pointed the web and
admin settings where they belong and all's working great. Thanks for the
sighup help, Dmitrijs.

Jeremiah Rogers
Cell: 704-996-5334
Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
Social Networking: /jzrogers

> On Nov 2, 2015, at 08:35, Philipp Schafft <lion at lion.leolix.org>
wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon,
> 
>> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:19 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>> Sorry to reply to myself. The message says "could not parse
xslt".
> 
> Ok. Please have a look at the config file (icecast*.xml). In the
<paths>
> section there should be a <webroot> as well as a <adminroot>
setting. Do
> those point to existing directories with some *.xsl in them?
> 
> Another litte hint: apt-get install --reinstall ...
> 
> Have a nice day!
> 
>> Jeremiah Rogers
>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 05:51, Jeremiah Rogers <jeremiahzrogers at
gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Philipp. Thanks so much for the educatin about why not to
build myself.
>>> 
>>> The error I was getting, from a browser when I tried to open the
URL to my machine running Icecast, was a 404 error and a message that it
couldn't find the XSLT files. I'll install the packaged build again
later today and provide you exact error text, but I remember it saying it
couldn't find or process the XSLT.
>>> 
>>> Would it be helpful for me to do an apt-get download icecast2 and
somehow provide the resulting download to someone off-list so they can see what
I got?
>>> 
>>> Jeremiah Rogers
>>> Cell: 704-996-5334
>>> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
>>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 02:17, Philipp Schafft <lion at
lion.leolix.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning,
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 18:12 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
>>>>> Hi all. I'm brand new to Linux and want to install
Icecast 2.4.2 on Raspian.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I used apt-get to install Icecast 2.4.0, and the install
would stream
>>>>> music, but none of the status or admin pages would work. I
ran the
>>>>> install by typing sudo apt-get install icecast2 from ~.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, that sounds right.
>>>> 
>>>> What error message you get when accessing those pages?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I thought I might get better results if I built and
installed myself.
>>>>> Anyone able to provide step-by-step instructions to unpack
and build
>>>>> from the tar.gz, or point me to a good tutorial online for
doing such?
>>>>> In particular, which directory should I be in to initiate
the work? Do I
>>>>> need to use sudo? Once installed, what do I do to make it
run on system
>>>>> boot? I will be running this install from a fresh image.
Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> I very much recommend against installing stuff from source.
This is not
>>>> so much related to Icecast2 but a general statement.
>>>> 
>>>> The reasons why I recommend using pre-compiled packages are as
the
>>>> following. The importance of individual aspects vary depending
on your
>>>> situation.
>>>>    * You will not get updates. You will likely never notice
that
>>>>      there are updates out there. This is a big problem as no
>>>>      SECURITY fixes can reach you. Thus installing stuff from
source
>>>>      can be very harmful.
>>>>    * Most people install stuff from source without verifying
the
>>>>      source. (Or have no way to really verify it at all as
they're
>>>>      (cryptographically speaking) too far away from the source.
So
>>>>      you will run a software that may be altered on it's
path to you
>>>>      (this includes everything from simple transmission errors
to
>>>>      attacks specially targeted to you). Thus you can not trust
the
>>>>      software most of the time. Once your ran any untrusted
software
>>>>      your system must be considered compromised.
>>>>    * The package is made to fit your system while the source is
not.
>>>>      e.g. the package usually installs scripts and helper files
to
>>>>      e.g. start a daemon on system start up or intigrate with
tools
>>>>      like logrotate. You need to do all that yourself and may
or may
>>>>      not aware of all those things. See your question above.
You have
>>>>      asked for it already so you got this point already :).
>>>>    * If people run the package provided by the OS it's more
easy to
>>>>      handle bugs. There is a single packet that you can report
bugs
>>>>      against and the maintainer can upstream bugs or cooperate
with
>>>>      upstream in any way to solve problems. If you run your own
>>>>      package you need to take care yourself.
>>>>    * You waste energy. Compiling is process taking a lot of
energy.
>>>>      And there is no reason for the mass do to this as the
>>>>      pre-compiled binaries are matching your system virtually
>>>>      perfectly. Energy is the ONLY single one resource on this
planet
>>>>      we are RUNNING OUT OF.
>>>> 
>>>> So for the reasons above I would prefer to work on fixing the
problem
>>>> above and not go with source code. Plus I think you will learn
a bit
>>>> about the system that is new to you. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Have a nice day! Awaiting your response with the error
message(s).
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Philipp.
>>>> (Rah of PH2)
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Icecast mailing list
>>>> Icecast at xiph.org
>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
>> _______________________________________________
>> Icecast mailing list
>> Icecast at xiph.org
>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast
> 
> -- 
> Philipp.
> (Rah of PH2)
> _______________________________________________
> Icecast mailing list
> Icecast at xiph.org
> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast

Good morning,


On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 20:58 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:
> Thank's Philipp and Dmitrijs. That got it fixed. I just pointed the
> web and admin settings where they belong and all's working great.
> Thanks for the sighup help, Dmitrijs.
Nice to hear that you got it fixed.

Have a nice day!

> Jeremiah Rogers
> Cell: 704-996-5334
> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> Social Networking: /jzrogers
> 
> 
> > On Nov 2, 2015, at 08:35, Philipp Schafft <lion at
lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Good afternoon,
> > 
> >> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:19 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers wrote:
> >> Sorry to reply to myself. The message says "could not parse
xslt".
> > 
> > Ok. Please have a look at the config file (icecast*.xml). In the
<paths>
> > section there should be a <webroot> as well as a
<adminroot> setting. Do
> > those point to existing directories with some *.xsl in them?
> > 
> > Another litte hint: apt-get install --reinstall ...
> > 
> > Have a nice day!
> > 
> >> Jeremiah Rogers
> >> Cell: 704-996-5334
> >> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> >> Social Networking: /jzrogers
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 05:51, Jeremiah Rogers <jeremiahzrogers
at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello Philipp. Thanks so much for the educatin about why not
to build myself.
> >>> 
> >>> The error I was getting, from a browser when I tried to open
the URL to my machine running Icecast, was a 404 error and a message that it
couldn't find the XSLT files. I'll install the packaged build again
later today and provide you exact error text, but I remember it saying it
couldn't find or process the XSLT.
> >>> 
> >>> Would it be helpful for me to do an apt-get download icecast2
and somehow provide the resulting download to someone off-list so they can see
what I got?
> >>> 
> >>> Jeremiah Rogers
> >>> Cell: 704-996-5334
> >>> Email: jeremiahzrogers at gmail.com
> >>> Social Networking: /jzrogers
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 02:17, Philipp Schafft <lion at
lion.leolix.org> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Good morning,
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 18:12 -0500, Jeremiah Rogers
wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all. I'm brand new to Linux and want to install
Icecast 2.4.2 on Raspian.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I used apt-get to install Icecast 2.4.0, and the
install would stream
> >>>>> music, but none of the status or admin pages would
work. I ran the
> >>>>> install by typing sudo apt-get install icecast2 from
~.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ok, that sounds right.
> >>>> 
> >>>> What error message you get when accessing those pages?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> I thought I might get better results if I built and
installed myself.
> >>>>> Anyone able to provide step-by-step instructions to
unpack and build
> >>>>> from the tar.gz, or point me to a good tutorial online
for doing such?
> >>>>> In particular, which directory should I be in to
initiate the work? Do I
> >>>>> need to use sudo? Once installed, what do I do to make
it run on system
> >>>>> boot? I will be running this install from a fresh
image. Thanks!
> >>>> 
> >>>> I very much recommend against installing stuff from
source. This is not
> >>>> so much related to Icecast2 but a general statement.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The reasons why I recommend using pre-compiled packages
are as the
> >>>> following. The importance of individual aspects vary
depending on your
> >>>> situation.
> >>>>    * You will not get updates. You will likely never
notice that
> >>>>      there are updates out there. This is a big problem as
no
> >>>>      SECURITY fixes can reach you. Thus installing stuff
from source
> >>>>      can be very harmful.
> >>>>    * Most people install stuff from source without
verifying the
> >>>>      source. (Or have no way to really verify it at all as
they're
> >>>>      (cryptographically speaking) too far away from the
source. So
> >>>>      you will run a software that may be altered on
it's path to you
> >>>>      (this includes everything from simple transmission
errors to
> >>>>      attacks specially targeted to you). Thus you can not
trust the
> >>>>      software most of the time. Once your ran any
untrusted software
> >>>>      your system must be considered compromised.
> >>>>    * The package is made to fit your system while the
source is not.
> >>>>      e.g. the package usually installs scripts and helper
files to
> >>>>      e.g. start a daemon on system start up or intigrate
with tools
> >>>>      like logrotate. You need to do all that yourself and
may or may
> >>>>      not aware of all those things. See your question
above. You have
> >>>>      asked for it already so you got this point already
:).
> >>>>    * If people run the package provided by the OS it's
more easy to
> >>>>      handle bugs. There is a single packet that you can
report bugs
> >>>>      against and the maintainer can upstream bugs or
cooperate with
> >>>>      upstream in any way to solve problems. If you run
your own
> >>>>      package you need to take care yourself.
> >>>>    * You waste energy. Compiling is process taking a lot
of energy.
> >>>>      And there is no reason for the mass do to this as the
> >>>>      pre-compiled binaries are matching your system
virtually
> >>>>      perfectly. Energy is the ONLY single one resource on
this planet
> >>>>      we are RUNNING OUT OF.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So for the reasons above I would prefer to work on fixing
the problem
> >>>> above and not go with source code. Plus I think you will
learn a bit
> >>>> about the system that is new to you. :)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Have a nice day! Awaiting your response with the error
message(s).
> >>>> 
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Philipp.
> >>>> (Rah of PH2)
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> > 
> > -- 
> > Philipp.
> > (Rah of PH2)
> > _______________________________________________
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-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)
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