Icecast - Jun 2015 - Question about Icecast2 when not streaming

On 3 Jun 2015, at 14:10, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
> El mar, 02-06-2015 a las 21:48 -0400, Kyle Blizzard escribi?:
>> Hello.
>>
>> I've been using Icecast for a few days now, and am really enjoying
>> it. One thing I can't figure out how to do is have a specific file
>> play if someone were to click on my stream url, and I wasn't
actively
>> streaming at the time. I want it to play if I'm not streaming, but
>> play the stream if I am. I'm not sure if this is possible; I've
>> searched the Icecast
>> site and forums and didn't see anything about it, but I've seen
other
>> people do something similar. Is it possible to do this?
>>
>> Thanks for any information you may be able to provide.
> Hello Kyle,
> If you want that the listener always receive audio from your *Web 
> site*,
> whether or not your *Icecast server* is running, you can include an
> onclick event on your stream url, so, if your *Icecast server* is not
> running, a song hosted in your *Web server* will be played:
>
document.getElementById('idYourStreamUrlButton').onclick=function(){if(icecastIsRunning){playYourIcecast}else{playYourSong}}
Thanks for the reply, but actually this solution you are advising is not 
really suitable.
Client side Javascript is no solution to the problem that users may have 
a direct link to
the stream and will not be able to listen to it, when it is not 
available.

There is actually a much better approach which works natively in Icecast 
without any need for
anything else: Fallbacks
You can setup a fallback for your stream, which can be either another 
mountpoint or a file located in
your webroot. Check the Documentation [1] for more information about 
that.
Feel free to ask again if you are experiencing any problems or need 
further help setting it up.

[1]: 
http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html#mountsettings
> Jos? Luis
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El mi?, 03-06-2015 a las 14:18 +0200, Marvin Scholz
escribi?:
> On 3 Jun 2015, at 14:10, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
> 
> > El mar, 02-06-2015 a las 21:48 -0400, Kyle Blizzard escribi?:
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> I've been using Icecast for a few days now, and am really
enjoying
> >> it. One thing I can't figure out how to do is have a specific
file
> >> play if someone were to click on my stream url, and I wasn't
actively
> >> streaming at the time. I want it to play if I'm not streaming,
but
> >> play the stream if I am. I'm not sure if this is possible;
I've
> >> searched the Icecast
> >> site and forums and didn't see anything about it, but I've
seen other
> >> people do something similar. Is it possible to do this?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any information you may be able to provide.
> > Hello Kyle,
> > If you want that the listener always receive audio from your *Web 
> > site*,
> > whether or not your *Icecast server* is running, you can include an
> > onclick event on your stream url, so, if your *Icecast server* is not
> > running, a song hosted in your *Web server* will be played:
> >
document.getElementById('idYourStreamUrlButton').onclick=function(){if(icecastIsRunning){playYourIcecast}else{playYourSong}}
> 
> Thanks for the reply, but actually this solution you are advising is not 
> really suitable.
> Client side Javascript is no solution to the problem that users may have 
> a direct link to
> the stream and will not be able to listen to it, when it is not 
> available.
> 
> There is actually a much better approach which works natively in Icecast 
> without any need for
> anything else: Fallbacks
> You can setup a fallback for your stream, which can be either another 
> mountpoint or a file located in
> your webroot. Check the Documentation [1] for more information about 
> that.
> Feel free to ask again if you are experiencing any problems or need 
> further help setting it up.
> 
> [1]: 
> http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html#mountsettings
> 
> > Jos? Luis
Hello Marvin,
Thank you very much for the information, I did not know.
But the solution "Fallbacks" requires the Icecast server is working,
is
it?. If so, what about if Icecast is not working ?.
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On 3 Jun 2015, at 14:36, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
> El mi?, 03-06-2015 a las 14:18 +0200, Marvin Scholz escribi?:
>> On 3 Jun 2015, at 14:10, Jos? Luis Artuch wrote:
>>
>>> El mar, 02-06-2015 a las 21:48 -0400, Kyle Blizzard escribi?:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using Icecast for a few days now, and am really
enjoying
>>>> it. One thing I can't figure out how to do is have a
specific file
>>>> play if someone were to click on my stream url, and I
wasn't
>>>> actively
>>>> streaming at the time. I want it to play if I'm not
streaming, but
>>>> play the stream if I am. I'm not sure if this is possible;
I've
>>>> searched the Icecast
>>>> site and forums and didn't see anything about it, but
I've seen
>>>> other
>>>> people do something similar. Is it possible to do this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any information you may be able to provide.
>>> Hello Kyle,
>>> If you want that the listener always receive audio from your *Web
>>> site*,
>>> whether or not your *Icecast server* is running, you can include an
>>> onclick event on your stream url, so, if your *Icecast server* is 
>>> not
>>> running, a song hosted in your *Web server* will be played:
>>>
document.getElementById('idYourStreamUrlButton').onclick=function(){if(icecastIsRunning){playYourIcecast}else{playYourSong}}
>>
>> Thanks for the reply, but actually this solution you are advising is 
>> not
>> really suitable.
>> Client side Javascript is no solution to the problem that users may 
>> have
>> a direct link to
>> the stream and will not be able to listen to it, when it is not
>> available.
>>
>> There is actually a much better approach which works natively in 
>> Icecast
>> without any need for
>> anything else: Fallbacks
>> You can setup a fallback for your stream, which can be either another
>> mountpoint or a file located in
>> your webroot. Check the Documentation [1] for more information about
>> that.
>> Feel free to ask again if you are experiencing any problems or need
>> further help setting it up.
>>
>> [1]:
>> http://icecast.org/docs/icecast-2.4.1/config-file.html#mountsettings
>>
>>> Jos? Luis
> Hello Marvin,
> Thank you very much for the information, I did not know.
> But the solution "Fallbacks" requires the Icecast server is
working,
> is
> it?. If so, what about if Icecast is not working ?.
Icecast is designed as a server software and should run all the time in 
normal operation mode, therefore if you shut it down, you have to come 
up with own handling for this case.
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