Karl, Is it possible that the fix you put in that made Real Player correctly play the Intros without the "This clip cannot be played. It contains unexpected data and may be corrupt" message, did not get applied to relayed streams? I am hitting this on relayed streams.... I'm using the July 13 windows exe from Oddsock. Thanks, Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20050725/3beded97/attachment.htm