Icecast - May 2005 - registering icecast server in shoutcast directory?

I'm running darkice-0.15 to stream live mp3 encoded audio to
icecast2-2.2.0_1,1 on a FreeBSD 4.10 machine and everything is
working great.  Now that I have my icecast stream server set up, I would
like to register it in the shoutcast directory.  Is this possible?  I
see the icecast.xml entries to register with the xiph.org and
oddsock.org directory servers, but I can't find any examples for
shoutcast.

I suspect this is (or should be) a FAQ, but I can't find a definitive
answer or example.  I've got the shoutcast server for FreeBSD
downloaded, but I would like to stick with icecast if possible.

Also, in case the list admins are reading, have you considered setting
up the HTdig integration with pipermail on the list archives to make
them searchable?  The install is pretty painless and would add a lot of
functionality to the lists:  http://www.htdig.org/

TIA

-- 
Tom
 
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Thomas D. Simes                                 simestd@netexpress.com 
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On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 19:35, Thomas D.Simes wrote:
> I'm running darkice-0.15 to stream live mp3 encoded audio to
> icecast2-2.2.0_1,1 on a FreeBSD 4.10 machine and everything is
> working great.  Now that I have my icecast stream server set up, I would
> like to register it in the shoutcast directory.  Is this possible?  I
> see the icecast.xml entries to register with the xiph.org and
> oddsock.org directory servers, but I can't find any examples for
> shoutcast.
shoutcast uses a different protocol to what we use, even so, the last I
heard was that AOL/Nullsoft banned non-shoutcast servers from their
directory. AFAIK this hasn't changed

karl.

On 26 May 2005 20:08:03 +0100
Karl Heyes <karl@xiph.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 19:35, Thomas D.Simes wrote:
> > I'm running darkice-0.15 to stream live mp3 encoded audio to
> > icecast2-2.2.0_1,1 on a FreeBSD 4.10 machine and everything is
> > working great.  Now that I have my icecast stream server set up, I
> > would like to register it in the shoutcast directory.  Is this
> > possible?  I see the icecast.xml entries to register with the
> > xiph.org and oddsock.org directory servers, but I can't find any
> > examples for shoutcast.
> 
> shoutcast uses a different protocol to what we use, even so, the last
> I heard was that AOL/Nullsoft banned non-shoutcast servers from their
> directory. AFAIK this hasn't changed
Ah, thanks for the clue++, that is unfortunate.  Obviously I am a noob
at streaming audio and I had presumed that the compability layer I
needed to worry about was the encoding algorithm.  

-- 
Tom
 
=====================================================================  
"Z-80 system stack overflow.  Shut 'er down Scotty, the system's
         sucking mud" - Error message on TRS 80 Model-16B

Thomas D. Simes                                 simestd@netexpress.com 
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On 5/26/05, Thomas D.Simes <simestd@netexpress.com>
wrote:
> 
> I'm running darkice-0.15 to stream live mp3 encoded audio to
> icecast2-2.2.0_1,1 on a FreeBSD 4.10 machine and everything is
> working great.  Now that I have my icecast stream server set up, I would
> like to register it in the shoutcast directory.  Is this possible?  I
> see the icecast.xml entries to register with the xiph.org and
> oddsock.org directory servers, but I can't find any examples for
> shoutcast.
The shoutcast directory has a policy of banning any non-shoutcast
servers, so we didn't bother with compatibility. If you wanted to hack
it up, that would probably be easy, but you should expect to get
banned, so there's not much point.

Mike