I'd like to resurrect this orphaned thread: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2003-December/006139.html We're using the embedded flash player for listeners of pulverradio.com and can't use 2.2 for relaying from our encoders. Apparently we can use Icecast v1.3 Although this is clearly a problem caused by ActiveX and Microsoft boneheads that is a mountain that may prove difficult to heave in a timely manner. The fact that it can work with 1.3 indicates that there may have been some behaviour in the old version that was improved upon for 2.x ... perhaps future versions of Icecast could have a configuration flag to deprecate 2.x behaviour to 1.3's styling for headers (which in my limited understanding is where the problem lies), simply as a work around for the problem that would still allow us to use the cool new relaying features of 2.0 in our implementation. Please? -Ian. A message from my developer on the issue follows: Another long night. I've been trying to find a way to make the streams work perfectly with Icecast.? There is a forum-documented problem with Icecast 2.0. http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2003-December/thread.html ? Streams play fine in Flash?under the following circumstances: - PC Mozilla / Opera - All other flash supported platforms. - Standalone But not in IE on the PC.? This is because MS implements the Flash plugin as an ActiveX control, and not as a third party plug-in. The difference?in that regard between?1.3 and 2.0 is a mystery and neither Macromedia nor Icecast has an explanation. I've tried several suggested solutions, including faking the headers via a PHP passthru, faking the incoming filename, connecting to either the m3u or direct to mp3, but no success.? The data is being transferred to the client, but the Flash never plays the stream when embedded in PC IE. ? Did you use Icecast v1.3 for the original stream I tested with in June?? If so, my question: What's the advantage in using 2.0? It's documented that the problem doesn't exist in 1.3.? And I had no problems embedding the original stream back then. ? Ramon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2430 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20041016/21b979c2/attachment.bin
On Sunday 17 October 2004 07:16, Ian Andrew Bell wrote:> I'd like to resurrect this orphaned thread: > > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2003-December/006139.html > > We're using the embedded flash player for listeners of pulverradio.com > and can't use 2.2 for relaying from our encoders. Apparently we can > use Icecast v1.3 > > Although this is clearly a problem caused by ActiveX and Microsoft > boneheads that is a mountain that may prove difficult to heave in a > timely manner. > > The fact that it can work with 1.3 indicates that there may have been > some behaviour in the old version that was improved upon for 2.x ... > perhaps future versions of Icecast could have a configuration flag to > deprecate 2.x behaviour to 1.3's styling for headers (which in my > limited understanding is where the problem lies), simply as a work > around for the problem that would still allow us to use the cool new > relaying features of 2.0 in our implementation.If we knew what the problem was (that causes flash to fail with 2.0), we'd be happy to add such a flag (or perhaps just change it to always work that way, depending on what the problem was). However, since nobody managed to figure out what the problem was (and some of the developers, such as myself, don't have a system where this problem can be reproduced), we can't really do much until someone does. Mike
Alternatively you can just script the window media player control, and bind it to your stream, that should work just fine, assuming you have my directshow filters installed. Zen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Smith" <msmith@xiph.org> To: "Ian Andrew Bell" <hello@ianbell.com>; "icecast" <icecast@xiph.org> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Icecast] ICECast in Flash / IEWin> On Sunday 17 October 2004 07:16, Ian Andrew Bell wrote: >> I'd like to resurrect this orphaned thread: >> >> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/2003-December/006139.html >> >> We're using the embedded flash player for listeners of pulverradio.com >> and can't use 2.2 for relaying from our encoders. Apparently we can >> use Icecast v1.3 >> >> Although this is clearly a problem caused by ActiveX and Microsoft >> boneheads that is a mountain that may prove difficult to heave in a >> timely manner. >> >> The fact that it can work with 1.3 indicates that there may have been >> some behaviour in the old version that was improved upon for 2.x ... >> perhaps future versions of Icecast could have a configuration flag to >> deprecate 2.x behaviour to 1.3's styling for headers (which in my >> limited understanding is where the problem lies), simply as a work >> around for the problem that would still allow us to use the cool new >> relaying features of 2.0 in our implementation. > > If we knew what the problem was (that causes flash to fail with 2.0), we'd > be > happy to add such a flag (or perhaps just change it to always work that > way, > depending on what the problem was). > > However, since nobody managed to figure out what the problem was (and some > of > the developers, such as myself, don't have a system where this problem can > be > reproduced), we can't really do much until someone does. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > >