On 4 Aug 2003 at 2:09, Karl Heyes wrote:> On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 01:27, Arc wrote: > > > > There was a header mismatch, make sure that the icecast's used are > > > recent enough first. > > > > I think the discussion needs to be opened as per setting a standard > > and sticking with it. It's not just Ices/Icecast anymore, if we > > just had to sync their versions everytime a developer decided to > > change the standard it'd be one thing, but darkice, oddsock, all the > > various YP server implementations, etc etc etc all depend on this > > standard. > > > > It's simply not fair to keep changing it, especially without > > notifying the lists and/or posting something to the website about > > it. > > Who said that the protocol had changed, libshout still sent what it > had before and I don't in fact know when the protocol was last > changed. So saying it keeps changing is completely wrong. Also the YP > servers don't see this part anyway. > > Writing a spec for the icecast2 HTTP login would be a good idea > though, the other logins IIRC are best guesses to what the other > servers accept.If your talking about a icecast2-yellowpages-procotol-docu: I had the same impression that there is no current docu available and wrote one. But as soon as I releaed it via mailinglist somebody pointed me to a "hidden" document by Oddsock. It's at: http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2yp/spec.html Don't no why there is no link to it somewhere. Maybe because it's "not finished" yet. But I personally rate it quite helpful. Maybe it helps you also. Stefan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 06:50:56PM +0100, Karl Heyes wrote:> > > We've been having a major problem with our icecast servers, some streams > > are being sent to the YP servers and others are not, and yes the public > > bit is set as confirmed by connecting to the streams directly and > > looking at the headers they send. > > There was a header mismatch, make sure that the icecast's used are > recent enough first.I think the discussion needs to be opened as per setting a standard and sticking with it. It's not just Ices/Icecast anymore, if we just had to sync their versions everytime a developer decided to change the standard it'd be one thing, but darkice, oddsock, all the various YP server implementations, etc etc etc all depend on this standard. It's simply not fair to keep changing it, especially without notifying the lists and/or posting something to the website about it. <p> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20030803/ecbc6a75/part.pgp
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 01:27, Arc wrote:> > There was a header mismatch, make sure that the icecast's used are > > recent enough first. > > I think the discussion needs to be opened as per setting a standard and > sticking with it. It's not just Ices/Icecast anymore, if we just had to > sync their versions everytime a developer decided to change the standard > it'd be one thing, but darkice, oddsock, all the various YP server > implementations, etc etc etc all depend on this standard. > > It's simply not fair to keep changing it, especially without notifying > the lists and/or posting something to the website about it.Who said that the protocol had changed, libshout still sent what it had before and I don't in fact know when the protocol was last changed. So saying it keeps changing is completely wrong. Also the YP servers don't see this part anyway. Writing a spec for the icecast2 HTTP login would be a good idea though, the other logins IIRC are best guesses to what the other servers accept. karl. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 02:09:58AM +0100, Karl Heyes wrote:> > Who said that the protocol had changed, libshout still sent what it had > before and I don't in fact know when the protocol was last changed. So > saying it keeps changing is completely wrong. Also the YP servers don't > see this part anyway.I thought that you had said that they source-server protocol had changed in respect to YP. The problem that I stated was that Icecast2 is not announcing certain streams to the YP servers. Some examples of streams that are not getting announced include: http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/seattle-hifi.ogg http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/seattle-hifi.mp3 http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/seattle-lofi.mp3 http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/sf-lofi.mp3 While other streams using the same server work just fine: http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/sf-hifi.mp3 http://liveradio.indymedia.org:8001/sf-hifi.ogg Note that the sf-hifi.mp3 relay is comming from shoutcast, the sf-hifi.ogg is comming from Icecast2, all three SF's are comming from the same darkice process. There should be no difference in how Icecast handles them, but I have full debug turned on the YP server and these streams arent even getting announced to the YP server. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20030803/83628bd9/part.pgp