Stefan Neufeind wrote:> Could you be a BIT more precise? If you use SQRSoft crossfading, > doesn't it work as desired with the normal Oddcast DSP? And if it > does: Where's the problem with using the Null output plugin?You can only select one output plugin in Winamp and that needs to the the SQRSoft one, not the Null output plugin. The audio needs to pass through the crossfade plugin before being sent to the OddCast DSP. The crossfade plugin provides for a DSP to be selected for this purpose.> And if it doesn't: > Try the DSP-stacker-plugin. Here you can say "send output to > crossfading and what comes out send it to the Oddcast DSP" and > finally use your Null output if you want.I see your confusion. The crossfade plugin is an output plugin, not a DSP plugin. Speaking of DSP stackers, I've tried 3 of them now but the Oddcast DSP doesn't work when going thru a stacker via the SQRSoft plugin. It just sits there at 0kb/s sent. I wanted to use an audio compressor/limiter DSP as well but it looks like we'll have to do without this luxury. Regards, Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 11:29 AM 6/10/2003 +1200, you wrote:>I see your confusion. The crossfade plugin is an output plugin, not a >DSP plugin. >Speaking of DSP stackers, I've tried 3 of them now but the Oddcast DSP >doesn't work when going thru a stacker via the SQRSoft plugin. It just >sits there at 0kb/s sent. I wanted to use an audio compressor/limiter >DSP as well but it looks like we'll have to do without this luxury. > >Regards, >Ross.ok, I think I'll step in at this point and throw up (in) my $0.03.....The SQRSoft plugin is a great crossfader (yes it really is), however their "dsp" support is pretty darn weak. I've had lots of complaints with my plugin not working with SQRSoft, and they were all a result of SQRSoft just doing something stupid...support was added via a series of hacks that I hated to add, but did since SQRSoft apparently won't fix their stuff...that being said, coupling their buggy DSP implementation with a DSP stacker is, well, just asking for trouble. I'd suggest looking at foobar2000..their DSP handling is proper (not without some issues) but at least DSP chaining is built in..so adding limiters/compressors/etc to the chain is very simple. Oddcastv2 is supported under foobar2000 as well (how convienient! :)) also, your previous comment about running 16-24 encoding instances on a single box (dual CPU) is a bit extreme....the trouble is the encoding....anytime that you encode or transcode, CPU is going to be a major issue. LAME has some neat ways to mediate this via "quality" settings, but that has the unfortunate effect of crapifying the sound.... oddsock <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 10 Jun 2003 at 11:29, Ross Levis wrote:> Stefan Neufeind wrote: > > Could you be a BIT more precise? If you use SQRSoft crossfading, > > doesn't it work as desired with the normal Oddcast DSP? And if it > > does: Where's the problem with using the Null output plugin? > > You can only select one output plugin in Winamp and that needs to the > the SQRSoft one, not the Null output plugin. The audio needs to pass > through the crossfade plugin before being sent to the OddCast DSP. > The crossfade plugin provides for a DSP to be selected for this > purpose. > > > And if it doesn't: > > Try the DSP-stacker-plugin. Here you can say "send output to > > crossfading and what comes out send it to the Oddcast DSP" and > > finally use your Null output if you want. > > I see your confusion. The crossfade plugin is an output plugin, not a > DSP plugin. Speaking of DSP stackers, I've tried 3 of them now but the > Oddcast DSP doesn't work when going thru a stacker via the SQRSoft > plugin. It just sits there at 0kb/s sent. I wanted to use an audio > compressor/limiter DSP as well but it looks like we'll have to do > without this luxury.How about directly "hacking" together a small WinAmp-clone? The plugin-interfaces (usual dlls) are open, so for a Windows-programmer it should fairly easy be possible to load and call all plugins in the order you desire - be it input / dsp / output ... whatever. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.