Hi,
Just wanted to clarify, can icecast2 not read OR broadcast any mp3, or
can it just not broadcast mp3 (but still play from a playlist)? I know the
quality would be dropped if it had to reencode them though.
And what's up with that POS Winamp3, it doesn't even play gg streams?!?
I use xmms, but we have winamp3 on a demo computer, it just sits and keeps
prebuffering. I need something else for windows I think.
Thanks in advance,
Bryan
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Koschmann - GKT <gktnews@gktech.net> wrote:> Just wanted to clarify, can icecast2 not read OR broadcast any mp3, or > can it just not broadcast mp3 (but still play from a playlist)?Icecast2 will stream MP3 just nicely. No problems. -rbb -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 01:25 PM 6/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:>The problem with WinAMP 3 is that it will accept only ogg >data with the old MIME type "application/x-ogg", but current >icecast sources emit the new and correct mime type >"application-ogg". WinAMP must reject the ogg data because >it didn't match the MIME type it expected, so yes, it just >sits there prebuffering, and prebuffering, and prebuffering... > >I fixed this by altering one string in format.c, and another >in fserve.c in the current CVS icecast sources, then >rebuilding. WinAMP works just fine after you change them >both to the old MIME type "application/x-ogg", and the other >players I've tried (xmms, Whamp for Mac OS X) do too. > >Perhaps we could revert to the old MIME type in CVS? I >know it's great that the new type is official, but for the >time being players *should* support both types, and emitting >the old type will work around WinAMP's dain bramage. Just >a suggestion... > >Matt >Winamp3's problems do not end with this simple mod, it has fundamental and major broken-ness that really should be fixed...you know things are seriously busted when Nullsoft has said themselves they are ditching wa3... and good riddance.... :) and supporting this type of broken-ness is not the right solution anyway....it's ironic though, since wa3 deals with formats using the method that is generally accepted as correct (based off content-type, rather than file extension)...no other media player does this (foobar2k might, but I don't know).... oddsock <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
The problem with WinAMP 3 is that it will accept only ogg data with the old MIME type "application/x-ogg", but current icecast sources emit the new and correct mime type "application-ogg". WinAMP must reject the ogg data because it didn't match the MIME type it expected, so yes, it just sits there prebuffering, and prebuffering, and prebuffering... I fixed this by altering one string in format.c, and another in fserve.c in the current CVS icecast sources, then rebuilding. WinAMP works just fine after you change them both to the old MIME type "application/x-ogg", and the other players I've tried (xmms, Whamp for Mac OS X) do too. Perhaps we could revert to the old MIME type in CVS? I know it's great that the new type is official, but for the time being players *should* support both types, and emitting the old type will work around WinAMP's dain bramage. Just a suggestion... Matt <p>On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:34:43AM -0700, Bryan Koschmann - GKT wrote:> .... > And what's up with that POS Winamp3, it doesn't even play gg streams?!? > I use xmms, but we have winamp3 on a demo computer, it just sits and keeps > prebuffering. I need something else for windows I think. > ...-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 233 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/attachments/20030603/77f8bb01/part.pgp
On 3 Jun 2003 at 13:43, oddsock wrote:> Current clients that we know about that can communicate with icecast2: > > Unix Source clients : > ices0.x (supports mp3 streams) > ices2.x (supports ogg vorbis streams) > darkice (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) > oddcast xmms plugin (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) > streamTranscoder (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)Darkice works with icecast2? Thought I read just icecast ... --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
icecast2 is a broadcast server and will broadcast both ogg vorbis and mp3 streams. This assumes that you have a source client which can produce an ogg vorbis and mp3 stream and send it TO an icecast2 server. With mp3 streams, shoutcast mp3 metadata is supported, however you cannot use the shoutcast DSP as a source stream to an icecast2 server. Current clients that we know about that can communicate with icecast2 : Unix Source clients : ices0.x (supports mp3 streams) ices2.x (supports ogg vorbis streams) darkice (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) oddcast xmms plugin (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) streamTranscoder (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) Win32 Source Clients : oddcast winamp/foobar/tcmp plugin (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) streamTranscoder (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis) If there are more, then please add to the list... oddsock At 11:34 AM 6/3/2003 -0700, you wrote:>Hi, > >Just wanted to clarify, can icecast2 not read OR broadcast any mp3, or >can it just not broadcast mp3 (but still play from a playlist)? I know the >quality would be dropped if it had to reencode them though. > >And what's up with that POS Winamp3, it doesn't even play gg streams?!? >I use xmms, but we have winamp3 on a demo computer, it just sits and keeps >prebuffering. I need something else for windows I think. > >Thanks in advance, > > Bryan > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.<p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Has this changed within the past few months? I swear awhile back icecast2
had no mp3 support, but then again I could be suffering from caffiene
withdrawal or something :)
Thanks for the information, it was all very helpful indeed!
Bryan
<p>On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, oddsock wrote:
> icecast2 is a broadcast server and will broadcast both ogg vorbis and mp3
> streams. This assumes that you have a source client which can produce an
> ogg vorbis and mp3 stream and send it TO an icecast2 server. With mp3
> streams, shoutcast mp3 metadata is supported, however you cannot use the
> shoutcast DSP as a source stream to an icecast2 server.
>
> Current clients that we know about that can communicate with icecast2 :
>
> Unix Source clients :
> ices0.x (supports mp3 streams)
> ices2.x (supports ogg vorbis streams)
> darkice (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)
> oddcast xmms plugin (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)
> streamTranscoder (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)
>
> Win32 Source Clients :
> oddcast winamp/foobar/tcmp plugin (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)
> streamTranscoder (supports mp3 + ogg vorbis)
>
> If there are more, then please add to the list...
>
> oddsock
>
> At 11:34 AM 6/3/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just wanted to clarify, can icecast2 not read OR broadcast any mp3, or
> >can it just not broadcast mp3 (but still play from a playlist)? I know
the
> >quality would be dropped if it had to reencode them though.
> >
> >And what's up with that POS Winamp3, it doesn't even play gg
streams?!?
> >I use xmms, but we have winamp3 on a demo computer, it just sits and
keeps
> >prebuffering. I need something else for windows I think.
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Bryan
> >
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, oddsock wrote:> shoutcast mp3 metadata is supported, however you cannot use the > shoutcast DSP as a source stream to an icecast2 server.Why is this? This would seem somewhat to defeat the point of including shoutcast-style stream support. Geoff. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.