<quote who="Adon Irani">> hello every0ne , it's ad0n from theDV8network.com . > > i've been hearing of more and more people in my community who are > having troubles connecting to our netw0rk . in most cases , wind0ws > media player or realone is stealing the associations ;What associations?> and even if they've installed winamp , the stream doesn't l0ad .Could you give a bit more detailed (logfiles etc) explanation on what is going wrong? Do they constantly re-connect? Does Winamp crash? 404?> i think , at least for the first-time listeners , i need to add mp3 > support .. ( currently i'm using icecast2/ices2 and oggvorbis )Only the full version of Winamp has Ogg/Vorbis support, if I recall correctly. I've noticed some problems with an Ogg/Vorbis stream that had no specific .ogg extension crashing Winamp. Could be the Winamp version used, could be bug at any other place in the chain.> i would use streamTranscoder-0.2 , but it won't transcode my ogg > streams ( same problem as mentioned on its homepage forum - connects > for about 2o seconds , appears on status.xsl , dies but transcoder > continues to run ).Same problem here, don't know of a fix yet.> otherwise , is ices-0.2.3cvs an option ?? does it require an older > version of libshout than ices2 ? i have libshout.so.3.0.0 installed , > but ./configure does not detect it ..You can't use Ices v0.2.3 with an Icecast2 server, I think.> i pressume this could work for live programming .. .You might want to give DarkIce a try, it works great for live streaming on our network.> for the on-demand archives, can ices-0.2.3cvs use .ogg in its playlist > ? or would i have to keep .mp3 archives as well ??You can't use Ices v0.2.3 with an Icecast2 server, I think. regards, Remco ps. Stop swapping "0" and "o", it's annoying and lessens your chance of getting a serious response. -- Remco B. Brink -- Information Systems Developer, Opera Software ASA Personal site at http://rc6.org - PGP key at http://rc6.org/rbb.pgp --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Wed, 21 May 2003, Remco B. Brink wrote:> <quote who="Adon Irani"> > > > i've been hearing of more and more people in my community who are > > having troubles connecting to our netw0rk . in most cases , wind0ws > > media player or realone is stealing the associations ; > > What associations?Probably .M3U> Only the full version of Winamp has Ogg/Vorbis support, if I recall > correctly.I think it's full and standard, not the other one (minimal?). and it needs to be 2.8 or higher (not 3.x, Vorbis streaming is busted in that).> I've noticed some problems with an Ogg/Vorbis stream that had no > specific .ogg extension crashing Winamp. Could be the Winamp version > used, could be bug at any other place in the chain.Winamp doesn't respect the MIME type sent with the stream and thinks that it's an MP3 stream unless it has a .ogg extention.> > i would use streamTranscoder-0.2 , but it won't transcode my ogg > > streams ( same problem as mentioned on its homepage forum - connects > > for about 2o seconds , appears on status.xsl , dies but transcoder > > continues to run ). > > Same problem here, don't know of a fix yet.treamTranscoder 0.2.0 which, last I checked, was the most recent release (December 2002) expects to see application/x-ogg in the MIME header from an icecast2 server, rather than application/ogg. Edit line 167 of transcurl.cpp, then also edit line 848 of liboddcast.cpp for completeness, then recompile. Works fine.> > otherwise , is ices-0.2.3cvs an option ?? does it require an older > > version of libshout than ices2 ? i have libshout.so.3.0.0 installed , > > but ./configure does not detect it .. > > You can't use Ices v0.2.3 with an Icecast2 server, I think.The CVS version of ices 0.2.x in the xiph repository works with CVS libshout and icecast2. You can get CVS snapshots from http://www.xiph.org/~brendan/ Note to developers and webpersons. I really think that the current status of ices 0.x is causing as much confusion as icecast 1.x did before it was publically (i.e. on the site) deprecated. So I suggest that the ices 0.2.3 release be put with icecast 1.x, and a new release (0.2.4? 0.3?) be made and put where people would look for ices 0.x, or, if it's not up to release status, instructions for obtaining it be put with the retrieval instructions for icecast2/ices2/libshout2. This would hopefully stop the "I can't get ices 0.2.3 to work with icecast2" messages. the presence of ices 0.2.3 and icecast 1.3.12 news items on the front page is also a possible sorce of confusion.> > for the on-demand archives, can ices-0.2.3cvs use .ogg in its playlist > > ? or would i have to keep .mp3 archives as well ??Ices 0.2.3 will take both .ogg and .MP3 files as input and produce MP3 output. Geoff. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 21 May 2003 at 23:01, Geoff Shang wrote:> On Wed, 21 May 2003, Remco B. Brink wrote: > > streamTranscoder 0.2.0 which, last I checked, was the most recent > release (December 2002) expects to see application/x-ogg in the MIME > header from an icecast2 server, rather than application/ogg. Edit > line 167 of transcurl.cpp, then also edit line 848 of liboddcast.cpp > for completeness, then recompile. Works fine.application/ogg is the official now, even specified by RFCs, right? --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
<quote who="Geoff Shang">> On Wed, 21 May 2003, Remco B. Brink wrote: > > > <quote who="Adon Irani"> > > > i would use streamTranscoder-0.2 , but it won't transcode my ogg > > > streams ( same problem as mentioned on its homepage forum - > > > connects for about 2o seconds , appears on status.xsl , dies but > > > transcoder continues to run ). > > > > Same problem here, don't know of a fix yet. > > streamTranscoder 0.2.0 which, last I checked, was the most recent > release(December 2002) expects to see application/x-ogg in the MIME > header from an icecast2 server, rather than application/ogg. Edit > line 167 of transcurl.cpp, then also edit line 848 of liboddcast.cpp > for completeness, then recompile. Works fine.Thanks for the tip, Geoff! regards, Remco -- Remco B. Brink -- Information Systems Developer, Opera Software ASA Personal site at http://rc6.org - PGP key at http://rc6.org/rbb.pgp --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> StreamTranscoder has just been updated yesterday with a whole lot of > fixes....I have also moved the code from sourceforge to my own CVS...I've> changed all the sourceforge links to hopefully alleviate some of the > confusion, but for the record, the latest can always be found here -> > http://www.oddsock.org/tools/streamTranscoder.i have been able to successfully transc0de the ogg stream to mp3 ( sending/receiving from icecast2 ) . i'm using the hiquality stream (ogg vbr quality of 7 ) and dropping it down to a 24kbps mp3 for compatibility thanks for all the updates/fixes . . i think this option will be the most versatile . i can transc0de both my live and rebroadcast streams . as for the on-demand archives , they are in ogg , and i refuse to keep mp3 archives as well .. but i think its fair to expect repeat listeners to setup winamp for their own go0d . ( so long as there is something to listen to by all ie., wmp or realone , they won't just leave frustrated the first time ! ) <p>>> I think it's full and standard, not the other one (minimal?). and it needs > to be 2.8 or higher (not 3.x, Vorbis streaming is busted in that).3.x DOES work , but not very well .. and i think different people will have varied experiences with it . 2.91 is the new most current version of 2. it is go0d and works well with ogg . . and yes , the lite or minimal version does NOT have ogg support . <p>>> The CVS version of ices 0.2.x in the xiph repository works with CVS > libshout and icecast2. You can get CVS snapshots from > http://www.xiph.org/~brendan/ > > Ices 0.2.3 will take both .ogg and .MP3 files as input and produce MP3 > output. >i think i'm going to hold off on this option ( streamTranscoder appears to be working very well ) . however, out of curiousity . is there a performance different between reencoding via streamTranscoder vs. ices 0.2.x ? thanks again for the flo0d of support !.. a:/, --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.