Icecast - Aug 2004 - External authentification-module for listening to icecast2-streams?

Hi,

today we came across the idea of adding an external authentification-
module for listening to icecast2. There have recently been talks with 
artists and music labels that they would like to receive "a small 
fee" per listener to e.g. a concert streamed live over the internet.

What do you think of adding an external authentification-module so 
that the user could listen to a stream with urls like:

http://customer0815:ajskl0a9@testserver:8000/concert

The idea behind it is to offer a service where users can log on to 
the concert with an account that generates a dynamic playlist 
containing these URLs. Is the usage of login-information possible 
with the usual players (XMMS, WinAmp, ... or even a MediaPlayer, a 
Flash-movie etc.)? As soon as the listener enters / leaves this has 
to be clearly be noted in the access_log-file so that the user could 
be charges with a certain amount for each minute he has been 
listening to the stream.

What do you think about it? Is a login possible with the usual 
players? Anybody got a suggestion in which way to implement such an 
external authentification (e.g. calling a program that returns if 
user is allowed to listen)?

<p>Best wishes
 Stefan

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On Wednesday 07 May 2003 19:34, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> Hi,
>
> today we came across the idea of adding an external authentification-
> module for listening to icecast2. There have recently been talks with
> artists and music labels that they would like to receive "a small
> fee" per listener to e.g. a concert streamed live over the internet.
>
> What do you think of adding an external authentification-module so
> that the user could listen to a stream with urls like:
>
> http://customer0815:ajskl0a9@testserver:8000/concert
>
> The idea behind it is to offer a service where users can log on to
> the concert with an account that generates a dynamic playlist
> containing these URLs. Is the usage of login-information possible
> with the usual players (XMMS, WinAmp, ... or even a MediaPlayer, a
> Flash-movie etc.)? As soon as the listener enters / leaves this has
> to be clearly be noted in the access_log-file so that the user could
> be charges with a certain amount for each minute he has been
> listening to the stream.
>
> What do you think about it? Is a login possible with the usual
> players? Anybody got a suggestion in which way to implement such an
> external authentification (e.g. calling a program that returns if
> user is allowed to listen)?
>
>
Potentially a quite interesting feature. Shouldn't even be too difficult to 
integrate, really. I suspect that many (and possibly even most?) players 
won't support it, though. Worth spending an hour or two experimenting if 
you're interested in it, though.

<p>Mike

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On 7 May 2003 at 20:14, Michael Smith wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 May 2003 19:34, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > today we came across the idea of adding an external
> > authentification- module for listening to icecast2. There have
> > recently been talks with artists and music labels that they would
> > like to receive "a small fee" per listener to e.g. a concert
> > streamed live over the internet.
> >
> > What do you think of adding an external authentification-module so
> > that the user could listen to a stream with urls like:
> >
> > http://customer0815:ajskl0a9@testserver:8000/concert
> >
> > The idea behind it is to offer a service where users can log on to
> > the concert with an account that generates a dynamic playlist
> > containing these URLs. Is the usage of login-information possible
> > with the usual players (XMMS, WinAmp, ... or even a MediaPlayer, a
> > Flash-movie etc.)? As soon as the listener enters / leaves this has
> > to be clearly be noted in the access_log-file so that the user could
> > be charges with a certain amount for each minute he has been
> > listening to the stream.
> >
> > What do you think about it? Is a login possible with the usual
> > players? Anybody got a suggestion in which way to implement such an
> > external authentification (e.g. calling a program that returns if
> > user is allowed to listen)?
> >
> >
> 
> Potentially a quite interesting feature. Shouldn't even be too
> difficult to integrate, really. I suspect that many (and possibly even
> most?) players won't support it, though. Worth spending an hour or two
> experimenting if you're interested in it, though.
Okay, then how about simply adding it past the URL? Like

http://testserver:8000/concert?session=abc10283kasld

hould work, right? Or are there cons against this? All we would have 
to add is a "split at ?"-routine to icecast2.
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