Icecast - Aug 2004 - cannot get icecast and ices to talk...authenticationfailed

Alright, I was able to recompile ices2beta, which connects to icecast, but
now I'm getting:
WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Corrupt or missing data in file

When I try to play a basic playlist with 2 files (that are fine, and do
exist).  I have set the sample and nominal bitrates at 256000, which is
also the encoding for the song...

Does the bitrate of the song have to be exactly the same as in the
ices.xml?  This might present a little problem with playing songs recorded
at different bitrates, as well as variable bitrates...so I'm gurssing this
cannot be?

Thanks!
Eric
> On Monday 07 April 2003 09:29 pm, Geoff Shang wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote:
>> > Is this documented anywhere at all?  I'd like to know what I
should've
>> > been reading to figure this out.  Source code, right?
>>
>> Well.  The icecast mount stuff I would have thought would be pretty
>> self-explanatory in the config file.  They're used to do stuff
that's an
>> exception to the general stuff defined above..
>
> I agree for the most part - it just seems by the example, that you need
> mount
> tags to attach a stream at all.  Obviously in practice this is not the
> case,
> the entire block is optional.  This would be a good thing to point out.
>
> I should also point out that I'm not personally having any trouble with
> this,
> I'm just trying to make life easier for Debian users who might install
my
> packages, and others who might be confused.
>
>> As for the ices user stuff,
>> yeah the ices configs are somewhat out of date as examples.  I've
been
>> meaning to ask about the username for the source for ages, but never
>> remembered.  It's possible that there are other undocumented tags
in the
>> ices XML format.   I guess I should find some time to create some
better
>> sample configs and submit a patch.
>
> Very cool.  Thanks!
>
>  - Keegan
>
>
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"Eric L. Brown" <eric@jyates.net> said:
> Alright, I was able to recompile ices2beta, which connects to icecast, but
> now I'm getting:
> WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Corrupt or missing data in file
This - amazingly enough - probably means that there's corrupt or missing
data
in your files. Can you give more details about them? ogginfo should tell you
more exactly what is wrong with them (and note that this is only a warning -
it's not an error in itself)
> 
> When I try to play a basic playlist with 2 files (that are fine, and do
> exist).  I have set the sample and nominal bitrates at 256000, which is
> also the encoding for the song...
> 
That's an extremely high bitrate for streaming - and anyway, if you want to
stream at the same bitrate as the files already are, why would you turn
reencoding on? 
> Does the bitrate of the song have to be exactly the same as in the
> ices.xml?  This might present a little problem with playing songs recorded
> at different bitrates, as well as variable bitrates...so I'm gurssing
this
> cannot be?
No, it doesn't - and there's no reason, in fact, that it would _ever_ be
the same.

Mike

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> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Eric L. Brown wrote:
>
>> WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Corrupt or missing data in file
>>
>> When I try to play a basic playlist with 2 files (that are fine, and do
>> exist).
>
> You're not trying to play MP3 files, by any chance?  Ices2 only plays
ogg
> and raw PCM at this time.
ah.
Ok, so is there any way to play my mp3 files (i.e. convert to ogg
on-the-fly or something)?

My goal is to be able to take my collection of CDs (now in 256k mp3
bitstream) and distribute through the house over the wireless network
(har-line network for other stuff).  Just trying to play with some of the
existing technologies before getting the hardware.  The next step is to
have different ices services, serving multiple icecast streams for a
virtual
'multi-room' system.
>
>> I have set the sample and nominal bitrates at 256000, which is
>> also the encoding for the song...
>>
>> Does the bitrate of the song have to be exactly the same as in the
>> ices.xml?  This might present a little problem with playing songs
>> recorded
>> at different bitrates, as well as variable bitrates...so I'm
gurssing
>> this
>> cannot be?
>
> If you just want ices to send out your files as they are, regardless of
> bitrate, you can do that.  Just don't specify any of the re-encoding
> options (see the second example in the sample playlist config).  Sending
> them out as is works fine because vorbis is designed to allow for chained
> streams with different bitrates and samples/channels.  If you do want the
> stream to be at a set bitrate, that's fine.  As far as I understand it,
> all
> files will be re-encoded, and therefore it again won't matter if the
files
> are of varying rates since they will be decoded and re-encoded before
> being
> sent out to icecast.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Eric L. Brown wrote:
> WARN playlist-builtin/playlist_read Corrupt or missing data in file
>
> When I try to play a basic playlist with 2 files (that are fine, and do
> exist).
You're not trying to play MP3 files, by any chance?  Ices2 only plays ogg
and raw PCM at this time.
> I have set the sample and nominal bitrates at 256000, which is
> also the encoding for the song...
>
> Does the bitrate of the song have to be exactly the same as in the
> ices.xml?  This might present a little problem with playing songs recorded
> at different bitrates, as well as variable bitrates...so I'm gurssing
this
> cannot be?
If you just want ices to send out your files as they are, regardless of
bitrate, you can do that.  Just don't specify any of the re-encoding
options (see the second example in the sample playlist config).  Sending
them out as is works fine because vorbis is designed to allow for chained
streams with different bitrates and samples/channels.  If you do want the
stream to be at a set bitrate, that's fine.  As far as I understand it, all
files will be re-encoded, and therefore it again won't matter if the files
are of varying rates since they will be decoded and re-encoded before being
sent out to icecast.

Geoff.

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