So, I finally had some time to go through my scripts and after some poking and fixing I discovered that there is nothing wrong with my Perl script. It may be ugly and inefficient but it gets the job done and closes without throwing errors when run thru perl outside of ices. However, ices continues to produce the defunct processes, a listing of ices and icecast2 related material from ps is listed at the end of the email. ices-ad.pm is the perl script used to produce the next song. How and why is ices producing this behaviour and how can I stop it? I'm pretty sure that this is the likely cause of ices eventually Segment Faulting relatively regularily over time (defunct processes build up until it somehow crashes then it releases them). Any ideas all? --thanks Michael Edwards http://www.walledcity.ca/mars/ root 22508 0.0 3.6 2444 1080 ? S 22:43 0:00 SCREEN -R root 22509 0.0 4.1 2232 1244 pts/1 S 22:43 0:00 /bin/bash root 22618 0.0 4.1 2228 1236 pts/2 S 22:57 0:00 /bin/bash iceuser 22620 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22621 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22622 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22623 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22624 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22625 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22626 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ iceuser 22627 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:57 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ root 22631 0.0 5.9 5480 1792 pts/2 S 22:58 0:00 ices /etc/icecast root 22632 0.0 5.9 5480 1792 pts/2 S 22:58 0:00 ices /etc/icecast root 22633 0.0 5.9 5480 1792 pts/2 S 22:58 0:00 ices /etc/icecast root 22634 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/2 Z 22:58 0:00 [ices-ad.pm <defu iceuser 22635 0.0 4.1 16952 1252 pts/1 S 22:58 0:00 icecast2 -c /etc/ root 22668 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/2 Z 23:01 0:00 [ices-ad.pm <defu root 22679 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/2 Z 23:03 0:00 [ices-ad.pm <defu root 22703 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/2 Z 23:08 0:00 [ices-ad.pm <defu root 22731 0.1 0.0 0 0 pts/2 Z 23:11 0:00 [ices-ad.pm <defu root 22741 0.0 4.1 3164 1236 pts/0 R 23:13 0:00 ps aux <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.