-----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org] On Behalf Of Michael Smith>> >> This seems like a very useful thing to be included in a spec. And it>> doesn't seem unreasonable to include it in a client, except thatthere>> is no official spec that stream client developers use to develop >> against (or is there??). Afterall, Things like HTML Redirect's are >> handled by the client. > >Clients are meant to respond to HTTP (certainly NOT HTML) redirects,since>icecast uses HTTP, but most media players don't, so icecast doesn't usethis.> >Mike<homer>D'oh!</homer>.. Can't believe I made such a (now-glaring) mis-type.. Yes indeed I did mean HTTP redirects and NOT HTML (silly me!). I haven't done a lot of testing to see what is and isn't supported along these lines with the different clients out there, but FWIW I thought that Winamp (2.x) did support it (but this is going far back in my memory cells now clouded with too much beer). When you say that "most media players don't [use this]" I assume you are refering to the support of HTTP redirects? And so when you "move" another client to a new stream, you just grab the bytes from a different source-stream in icecast and send them down the existing pipe to the client - rather then sending a redirect causing the client to negotiate a new request? Just wanted to be specific for clarification purposes :) Thanks. Todd --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
This goes back a couple of months in the list.. But below refers to the idea of forwarding streams. *Is* there currently any way (with mp3 or ogg) to force the client to a new stream?? Is the "forward directive" referred to below in use by anything, if so what? And how is it implemented? This seems like a very useful thing to be included in a spec. And it doesn't seem unreasonable to include it in a client, except that there is no official spec that stream client developers use to develop against (or is there??). Afterall, Things like HTML Redirect's are handled by the client. Todd -----Original Message----- From: owner-icecast@xiph.org [mailto:owner-icecast@xiph.org] On Behalf Of Karl Heyes Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:32 AM To: icecast@xiph.org Subject: Re: [icecast] strange way of forwarding to another stream. <p>On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 14:54, Martin Blackwell wrote:> Just a kinda question on a random thought I was having. > Would it make sense, or be concievably plausible to write a plugin for> winamp, or other Icecast2 client to read a comment in the Ogg Vorbis > file to automatically open a new stream when the stream/file has > finished playing- eg, client starts/downloads the ad stream/file for > the server broadcasting the stream, vorbis file contains tag along the> lines of "FORWARD = protocol://server:port/stream.ogg", as a of adding> advertising to the start of a stream only.It's certainly possible, however you are placing more logic into the client end, and there maybe many different clients. The forward directive isn't universal AFAIK karl. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Michael Smith
2004-Aug-06 14:23 UTC
[icecast] strange way of forwarding to another stream.
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:01, Todd Poston wrote:> This goes back a couple of months in the list.. But below refers to the > idea of forwarding streams. *Is* there currently any way (with mp3 or > ogg) to force the client to a new stream?? Is the "forward directive" > referred to below in use by anything, if so what? And how is it > implemented?icecast can move a client to a new stream on the same server (through the admin interface ).> > This seems like a very useful thing to be included in a spec. And it > doesn't seem unreasonable to include it in a client, except that there > is no official spec that stream client developers use to develop against > (or is there??). Afterall, Things like HTML Redirect's are handled by > the client.Clients are meant to respond to HTTP (certainly NOT HTML) redirects, since icecast uses HTTP, but most media players don't, so icecast doesn't use this. Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.