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Marc Remijn

2004-Aug-06 14:23 UTC

[icecast] Re: Compiling ices

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From: Karl Heyes <karl@pts.tele2.co.uk>
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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [icecast] Re: Compiling ices

<p>> On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 06:39, Marc Remijn
wrote:> ...
>
> > Kernel output:
> >
> > invalid operand: 0000
> > CPU:    0
> > EIP:    0010:[<d08e25b1>]    Tainted: PF
> > EFLAGS: 00010006
> > eax: 0000000e   ebx: 00003556   ecx: ce44c728   edx: ce44c728
> > esi: 0000e000   edi: 00000007   ebp: c288bf64   esp: c288bf4c
> > ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> > Process ices (pid: 2707, stackpage=c288b000)
> > Stack: 00000202 cc3fbac0 00008000 ce44c6e0 ce44c728 0000ffff 00018000
0001c000> >        00010000 00014000 d08e011c ce44c6e0 00000000 cc3fbac0 ffffffea
00008000> >        00000000 00000000 c4745ea0 00000000 c012db45 cc3fbac0 0805c720
00008000> > Call Trace: [<d08e011c>] [<c012db45>] [<c0106d7b>]
> >
> > Code: 0f 0b 5b 5e 5f 5d 83 c4 18 c3 90 83 ec 04 56 53 8b 44 24 10
>
> This isn't from ices, this is from the kernel. Something went wrong
> during the time ices was running.  ices can completely freeze if the
> kernel has detected a problem somewhere, so you need to isolate the
> causes of such things.   There should be no way of causing a panic from
> ices and any other application.
>
> The thing that stands out initially is the tainted reference ie you have
> some non-standard module loaded on your system, the typical example is
> the nvidia module, use lsmod to see the list of modules.
The only module I know about that is 'tainted' is the philips webcam
compression module pwcx, which I forced loaded with 'insmod -f'. But
unloading that didn't change the problem. Anyway the 'tainted' issue
has to
do with no being in order with the GNU licence isn't it?

When I do lsmod (after reloading the pwcx module) I get:

root@dubhead:/home/marc# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: PF
pwcx                   87616   1
pwc                    38944   1  [pwcx]
iptable_nat            12660   1  (autoclean)
ip_conntrack           12684   1  (autoclean) [iptable_nat]
ip_tables              10432   3  [iptable_nat]
ide-scsi                7456   0
hisax                 447812   4
isdn                  110176   5  [hisax]
3c59x                  24648   2
emu10k1                55680  22
sound                  52876   0  [emu10k1]
ac97_codec              9568   0  [emu10k1]
soundcore               3236   7  [emu10k1 sound]
usb-uhci               20708   0  (unused)
usbcore                48000   0  [pwc usb-uhci]
videodev                4448   2  [pwc]
ppp_deflate            38912   0
ppp_async               6464   1
ppp_generic            14664   3  [ppp_deflate ppp_async]
slhc                    4416   2  [isdn ppp_generic]
agpgart                29824   0  (unused)
lp                      6368   1
parport_pc             14404   1
parport                21664   1  [lp parport_pc]

Rene Pfeiffer

2004-Aug-06 14:23 UTC

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On Feb 02, 2003 at 2348 +0100, Marc Remijn appeared and
said:> > On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 06:39, Marc Remijn wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > Kernel output:
> > >
> > > invalid operand: 0000
> > > CPU:    0
> > > EIP:    0010:[<d08e25b1>]    Tainted: PF
> > > EFLAGS: 00010006
> > > eax: 0000000e   ebx: 00003556   ecx: ce44c728   edx: ce44c728
> > > esi: 0000e000   edi: 00000007   ebp: c288bf64   esp: c288bf4c
> > > ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
> > > Process ices (pid: 2707, stackpage=c288b000)
> > > Stack: 00000202 cc3fbac0 00008000 ce44c6e0 ce44c728 0000ffff
00018000
> 0001c000
> > >        00010000 00014000 d08e011c ce44c6e0 00000000 cc3fbac0
ffffffea
> 00008000
> > >        00000000 00000000 c4745ea0 00000000 c012db45 cc3fbac0
0805c720
> 00008000
> > > Call Trace: [<d08e011c>] [<c012db45>]
[<c0106d7b>]
> > >
> > > Code: 0f 0b 5b 5e 5f 5d 83 c4 18 c3 90 83 ec 04 56 53 8b 44 24 10
> >
> > This isn't from ices, this is from the kernel. Something went
wrong
> > during the time ices was running.  [...]
> >
> > There are a few possibilities that could cause this kernel panic,
[...]
> 
> Hmm. This machine has been working for years without any problem. I
> installed more memory, but with this memory it has been running for months
> now, also without problems. There are quite a number of fans in the case.
Memory modules can age and can create the funniest problems when under
different load. I have a machine that handles RSYNC copies of several
GBs perfectly and every application that tries to shove the very same
GBs over NFS to the fileserver crashes with similar error messages as
you have provided. Maybe ices also stresses some memory pages more or
different to other applications. Try running memtest86 on your machine
if you can take it offline for a couple of hours (or days). You can also
test your modules in a different machine if you need the machine in
question.
> > The main thing that can be done to remove the possibility of a kernel
> > panic is having a recent kernel. The gcc release you have should be
> > fine.
> 
> I might build a new kernel to see if that solves the problem.
It might not. Which GCC and which kernel did you use?

Cheers,
Lynx.

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[icecast] Re: Compiling ices

On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 22:48, Marc Remijn wrote:
> The only module I know about that is 'tainted' is the philips
webcam
> compression module pwcx, which I forced loaded with 'insmod -f'.
But
> unloading that didn't change the problem. Anyway the 'tainted'
issue has to
> do with no being in order with the GNU licence isn't it?
No the best thing to do, is not load the module to start with, unloading
the module may mean nothing as it's already had access to the kernel.  
You more or less on the right idea with what tainted is, although it's
really a check for modules that don't have the typical open licenses
like GPL and BSD. Only a reboot will be sufficient for clearing the
tainted state.
> >From this output it isn't clear to me which module is tainted.
you've identified the module that is a potential cause. 
> Hmm. This machine has been working for years without any problem. I
> installed more memory, but with this memory it has been running for months
> now, also without problems. There are quite a number of fans in the case.
it's better to check, A good memory test is the memcheck program but
also doing heavy compiling can stress the memory more. As for fans make
sure you have good air flow through the case, especially with more
recent CPU's.
> I might build a new kernel to see if that solves the problem.
It's always good to make sure your up to date, especially on the driver
front but it's usually bad to do the insmod -f. The structures used
within the kernel can be configured differently from how the module was
built.  Some it may not matter but others can be a problem.
> > As for the config file I'll check into that a bit more later.
> 
> Is the re-encoding section necessary?
for live your not re-encoding, you do want encode so that an ogg vorbis
stream is produced but it looks like downmix and resample are not
needed.

karl.

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On Monday 03 February 2003 00:38, Karl Heyes wrote:> On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 22:48, Marc Remijn wrote:
> > The only module I know about that is 'tainted' is the philips
webcam
> > compression module pwcx, which I forced loaded with 'insmod
-f'. But
> > unloading that didn't change the problem. Anyway the
'tainted' issue has
> > to do with no being in order with the GNU licence isn't it?
>
> No the best thing to do, is not load the module to start with, unloading
> the module may mean nothing as it's already had access to the kernel.
> You more or less on the right idea with what tainted is, although it's
> really a check for modules that don't have the typical open licenses
> like GPL and BSD. Only a reboot will be sufficient for clearing the
> tainted state.
I rebooted the system without loading the pwc and pwcx modules. Still the same 
problem on starting ices live.

But the kernel messages and the output of lsmod now say: 
Tainted: P
instead of 'PF'.

So that would mean there are more tainted modules. By the way, what do the
'P'
and 'F' mean. Nothing is said about this in the lsmod manpage.
I might try rebooting the machine without any module loading. 
> > >From this output it isn't clear to me which module is tainted.
>
> you've identified the module that is a potential cause.
>
> > Hmm. This machine has been working for years without any problem. I
> > installed more memory, but with this memory it has been running for
> > months now, also without problems. There are quite a number of fans in
> > the case.
>
> it's better to check, A good memory test is the memcheck program but
> also doing heavy compiling can stress the memory more. As for fans make
> sure you have good air flow through the case, especially with more
> recent CPU's.
Well I downloaded and burned the bootable memtest86 cd. Started the system. I 
left it running the (standard) test for more than 3 hours (4 passes): no 
errors. So the memory seems to be OK.

I don' t know if it is useful but I included a dmesg after the last boot 
(again with the pwc and pwcx modules loading). This is the Slackware 8.1 
distibution adaptec scsi kernel.

Marc

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8.5 loaded.
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and MPC-C30, the Creative WebCam 5 and the SOTEC CMS-001.
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ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
ip_conntrack (2047 buckets, 16376 max)
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Marc Remijn

2004-Aug-06 14:23 UTC

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[icecast] Re: Compiling ices

On Monday 03 February 2003 00:38, Karl Heyes wrote:> On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 22:48, Marc Remijn wrote:
> > The only module I know about that is 'tainted' is the philips
webcam
> > compression module pwcx, which I forced loaded with 'insmod
-f'. But
> > unloading that didn't change the problem. Anyway the
'tainted' issue has
> > to do with no being in order with the GNU licence isn't it?
>
> No the best thing to do, is not load the module to start with, unloading
> the module may mean nothing as it's already had access to the kernel.
<p><p>I disabled the startup script that loaded the kernel modules.
I rebooted the system (obviously with lots of error messages by things that 
depend on some module or other being loaded).
I loaded the Soundblaster live module by hand (emu10k1).
I started icecast.
I started ices with the live-line-in config and:

Same problem.

kernel:
invalid operand: 0000
CPU:    0
EIP:    0010:[<d08895b1>]    Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00010006
eax: 0000000e   ebx: 00003556   ecx: cff5b6b8   edx: cff5b6b8
esi: 0000e000   edi: 00000007   ebp: cd351f64   esp: cd351f4c
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process ices (pid: 278, stackpage=cd351000)
Stack: 00000202 cd582c10 00008000 cff5b670 cff5b6b8 0000ffff 00018000 0001c000
       00010000 00014000 d088711c cff5b670 00000000 cd582c10 ffffffea 00008000
       00000000 00000000 ce4cdde0 00000000 c012db45 cd582c10 0805a720 00008000
Call Trace: [<d088711c>] [<c012db45>] [<c0106d7b>]

Code: 0f 0b 5b 5e 5f 5d 83 c4 18 c3 90 83 ec 04 56 53 8b 44 24 10

<p>lsmod:
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
emu10k1                55680   1
sound                  52876   0 [emu10k1]
ac97_codec              9568   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore               3236   7 (autoclean) [emu10k1 sound]
iptable_nat            12660   1 (autoclean)
ip_conntrack           12684   1 (autoclean) [iptable_nat]
ip_tables              10432   3 [iptable_nat]

<p>Marc
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