okay when I configure ices I used the configuration file that appears in the manual. I am seeing that I need to force the password as the password I set in the configuration file is not getting sent - stills says form the debug information that "letmein" is being sent. also I am getting the following error after I have the password situation figured out: Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:0/ices, error: Libshout enco untered invalid values or NULL pointers. Error during send: Mount failed on http://127.0.0.1:0/ices, error: Libshout enco untered invalid values or NULL pointers. <p>- Noah <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.