I did manage to dv-tape this from the front row, and thus got pretty fair audio, but a slightly awkward camera angle. NYU Media Lab had a tripod set up at the back, and were apparently intending to webcast the results via real. They were a little taken aback when I mentioned Richard's aversion to propietary formats, and thanked me profusely for pointing it out, and saving them grief. Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/ I do wish there was an 'free' SMIL player and a good low bitrate audio codec that would allow me to do the modem speed slideshow (sigh) I'll be happy to burn and mail cd's to any isoc/istf members that are interested. mailto:joly@dti.net?subject=stallman If you want video I'd have to clear it with gnu.org One appeal that Stallman did make, which strikes me as reasonable, is that in normal use when referring to the OS rather than just the kernel - one use the designation GNU/Linux .. to give full credit to the GPL community. "Still less syllables than Windows2000." GNU Press Release http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html CNET: Open-source guru to rebut Microsoft http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-6077553.html eweek: Stallman strikes back at Microsoft http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2766341,00.html ogg-vorbis info http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html -- **************cut when replying***************** ___________________________________________ WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com ___________________________________________ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On a similar note, TechSoup.org, the nonprofit technology portal at which I work, is currently having an Open Source online discussion event. It will only be happening for two more days. I would love to hear some of you Open Source geeks in the discussion. See you online, Susan. Please feel free to forward this announce to your friend and colleages: **************************************************************************** ******************** TECHSOUP.ORG AND HELPING.ORG INVITE YOU TO AN ONLINE FORUM ON OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS TechSoup.org<http://www.techsoup.org/lists.cfm> and Helping.org <http://www.helping.org/nonprofit> invite you to participate in a national online event this week, "Open Source Software Solutions." Join us for a four day event May 29-June 1st in TechSoup's Community at: <http://www.techsoup.org/lists.cfm?file=board&mb=5032536521104784> What is Open Source software? How difficult is it to use? What is the long term reliability of Open Source software? 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Following the four day-long event, TechSoup will also host and archive the ongoing discussion on its message boards. This event will launch the new forum in the TechSoup Community, Open Source Solutions. This is the fourth in a series of nonprofit technology events, co-sponsored by TechSoup.org and Helping.org. **************************************************************************** ************** At 01:31 AM 5/30/01 -0700, WWWhatsup wrote:>I did manage to dv-tape this from the front row, and thus >got pretty fair audio, but a slightly awkward camera angle. > >NYU Media Lab had a tripod set up at the back, and were >apparently intending to webcast the results via real. They >were a little taken aback when I mentioned Richard's aversion >to propietary formats, and thanked me profusely for pointing >it out, and saving them grief. > >Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, >but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are >huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there >plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/ > >I do wish there was an 'free' SMIL player and a good low bitrate audio >codec that would allow me to do the modem speed slideshow (sigh) > >I'll be happy to burn and mail cd's to any isoc/istf members >that are interested. mailto:joly@dti.net?subject=stallman >If you want video I'd have to clear it with gnu.org > >One appeal that Stallman did make, which strikes me as reasonable, is >that in normal use when referring to the OS rather than just >the kernel - one use the designation GNU/Linux .. to give full >credit to the GPL community. "Still less syllables than Windows2000." > >GNU Press Release >http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html > >CNET: Open-source guru to rebut Microsoft >http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_0-1003-200-6077553.html > >eweek: Stallman strikes back at Microsoft >http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2766341,00.html > >ogg-vorbis info >http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html >-- >**************cut when replying***************** >___________________________________________ > WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com > http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com >___________________________________________ > >---------------------------------------------- >http://isoc-ny.org >http://www.egroups.com/group/isoc-ny >"The Internet is for Everyone!" -- Vint Cerf >---------------------------------------------- > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Susan Tenby, Community Producer, TechSoup.org. 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> > Meanwhile I've encoded the audio in the kosher ogg-vorbis format, > but i couldn't encode at less than 128k, so the files are > huge - 110MB+ - but for those that have the pipe they are there > plus some stills. http://punkcast.com/64/Use sox to take them to mono and 22kHz, then specify -b1 for the bitrate, and they will encode well below 128. These features will make it into a future version of oggenc, but for now, manual processing with sox is necessary. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
um, where is sox? is there any lind of user guide, list of switches/methods for oggenc for CLI-challenged? I gave it a try last night and it refused my source - was that cos it's mono? (44khz 16bit wav) anyway I fedexed the wavs up to gnu.org on a couple of cd's with their vhs.. they are on the case now. I have re-recorded the audio as stereo for CD and am going to give oggenc another try tho, looking to fit it on a CD-rom with a couple of mpeg-1's..> Use sox to take them to mono and 22kHz, then specify -b1 for the > bitrate, and they will encode well below 128. These features will make > it into a future version of oggenc, but for now, manual processing with > sox is necessary. > > jack. >-- **************cut when replying***************** ___________________________________________ WWWhatsup NYC - http://pinstand.com http://punkcast.com - http://streamola.com ___________________________________________ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
>>>>> "j" == joly <WWWhatsup> writes:j> One appeal that Stallman did make, which strikes me as j> reasonable, is that in normal use when referring to the OS j> rather than just the kernel - one use the designation GNU/Linux j> .. to give full credit to the GPL community. "Still less j> syllables than Windows2000." (sigh) Except that a typical Linux is less than 50% GNU (FSF) software, and less than 60% GPL (worse if you measure by the byte), so to be fair and precise, we would have to call it (take a deep breath now ...) GNU/BSD/ASL/PD/QPL/MPL/SCL/NCL/DCL/IBMPL/JOSL/NOSL/SCL/NGPL/PL/MCVWL/Linux and then we get into the argument of who's name goes in what order and which ones we leave out for brevity. Where it does get termed GNU/Linux, as with Debian, an immediate pressure arises to make it _exclusively_ GNU/Linux and prevent the distribution of non-FSF-approved open source material. It is better to identify the FSF and GPL (not the same thing) where they apply, on a package by package basis. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@linux.ca>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 T(C)Inc Business Innovations through Open Source http://www.teledyn.com KernelWiki Community Linux Docs: http://kernelbook.sourceforge.net/wiki --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> Where it does get termed GNU/Linux, as with Debian, an immediate > pressure arises to make it _exclusively_ GNU/Linux and prevent the > distribution of non-FSF-approved open source material.I think you're reaching to say that GNU/Linux is what caused Debian's insistence on Freedom. That was there before there was a debate about GNU/Linux. I think RMS has a valid point. Quite a bit of what we think of as operating system level software, is under the GPL and/or was made by the FSF under the auspices of the GNU project. Certainly many of the major applications. And you also have a valid point. It's possible not every Linux-kernel based distribution is a GNU/Linux. But I think it's not unreasonable to claim that a lot are. Certainly there exist now systems that are GNU/Hurd, and probably someday we'll see a GNU/Darwin. jack. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.