Raghavendra Gowdappa
2019-Mar-27 01:48 UTC
[Gluster-users] POSIX locks and disconnections between clients and bricks
All, Glusterfs cleans up POSIX locks held on an fd when the client/mount through which those locks are held disconnects from bricks/server. This helps Glusterfs to not run into a stale lock problem later (For eg., if application unlocks while the connection was still down). However, this means the lock is no longer exclusive as other applications/clients can acquire the same lock. To communicate that locks are no longer valid, we are planning to mark the fd (which has POSIX locks) bad on a disconnect so that any future operations on that fd will fail, forcing the application to re-open the fd and re-acquire locks it needs [1]. Note that with AFR/replicate in picture we can prevent errors to application as long as Quorum number of children "never ever" lost connection with bricks after locks have been acquired. I am using the term "never ever" as locks are not healed back after re-connection and hence first disconnect would've marked the fd bad and the fd remains so even after re-connection happens. So, its not just Quorum number of children "currently online", but Quorum number of children "never having disconnected with bricks after locks are acquired". However, this use case is not affected if the application don't acquire any POSIX locks. So, I am interested in knowing * whether your use cases use POSIX locks? * Is it feasible for your application to re-open fds and re-acquire locks on seeing EBADFD errors? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1689375#c7 regards, Raghavendra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/attachments/20190327/fe3b1ea7/attachment.html>
Xavi Hernandez
2019-Mar-27 07:25 UTC
[Gluster-users] POSIX locks and disconnections between clients and bricks
Hi Raghavendra, On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 2:49 AM Raghavendra Gowdappa <rgowdapp at redhat.com> wrote:> All, > > Glusterfs cleans up POSIX locks held on an fd when the client/mount > through which those locks are held disconnects from bricks/server. This > helps Glusterfs to not run into a stale lock problem later (For eg., if > application unlocks while the connection was still down). However, this > means the lock is no longer exclusive as other applications/clients can > acquire the same lock. To communicate that locks are no longer valid, we > are planning to mark the fd (which has POSIX locks) bad on a disconnect so > that any future operations on that fd will fail, forcing the application to > re-open the fd and re-acquire locks it needs [1]. >Wouldn't it be better to retake the locks when the brick is reconnected if the lock is still in use ? BTW, the referenced bug is not public. Should we open another bug to track this ?> > Note that with AFR/replicate in picture we can prevent errors to > application as long as Quorum number of children "never ever" lost > connection with bricks after locks have been acquired. I am using the term > "never ever" as locks are not healed back after re-connection and hence > first disconnect would've marked the fd bad and the fd remains so even > after re-connection happens. So, its not just Quorum number of children > "currently online", but Quorum number of children "never having > disconnected with bricks after locks are acquired". >I think this requisite is not feasible. In a distributed file system, sooner or later all bricks will be disconnected. It could be because of failures or because an upgrade is done, but it will happen. The difference here is how long are fd's kept open. If applications open and close files frequently enough (i.e. the fd is not kept open more time than it takes to have more than Quorum bricks disconnected) then there's no problem. The problem can only appear on applications that open files for a long time and also use posix locks. In this case, the only good solution I see is to retake the locks on brick reconnection.> However, this use case is not affected if the application don't acquire > any POSIX locks. So, I am interested in knowing > * whether your use cases use POSIX locks? > * Is it feasible for your application to re-open fds and re-acquire locks > on seeing EBADFD errors? >I think that many applications are not prepared to handle that. Xavi> > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1689375#c7 > > regards, > Raghavendra > > _______________________________________________ > Gluster-users mailing list > Gluster-users at gluster.org > https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/attachments/20190327/521f5d6a/attachment.html>