My vote is for no. Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?? By continuously moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. ? On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote:> I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped > off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it > had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. > > I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" >-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4571 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20210404/5645ec39/attachment.bin>
My vote is also for no. I still use it on most of my systems. Easy to configure easy to use. On Sun, 4 Apr 2021, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote:> My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. ? > > On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote: >> I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system >> before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 >> (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. >> I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped >> off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it >> had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. >> >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" >> > >
> On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable at freebsd.org> wrote: > > My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. ?That?s a +1 here, both for the ?keep it? and for the comment above regarding complete OS vs. kernel and a teeny userland. Ideally, we?d modernize ftpd to support TLS. The PITA with ports solutions is you immediate run into the issue of which of the many ftp daemons is going to fit your needs and not require some non-trivial amount of configuration. The stock ftpd ?just works? for local user accounts and has a simple method for blocking of swaths of users from using it if that sort of restriction is needed. This reminds me of Apple removing the telnet client. Sure, most people don?t *need* telnet, but it?s handy to have, both as a simple test tool and as a way to get into old crufty network gear that never moved on to ssh. Charles> > On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote: >> I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system >> before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 >> (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. >> I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped >> off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it >> had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. >> >> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable at freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe at freebsd.org" >> >-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 528 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/attachments/20210404/96e11d01/attachment.sig>
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote:> My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?? By continuously moving > stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. ?I follow this argumentation. I do not understand what is the problem leaving it there. It is no bloat. It was there from the beginning of BSD. It may be insecure, but can be used in local nets. And who does not like it, do not need to use it. We had in base a complete DNS, now only a cashing one. We have a very robust MTA in base, sendmail, but some people complain against it. This will never end. R.
On 2021-04-05 02:05, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote:> My vote is for no. > > Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop? By continuously moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. ?I strongly agree with this consideration. --- Andrea Brancatelli